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Originally posted by gwb72tii View Postrwh, you're a bore
you have no better understanding of the science than me, herbal, cale etc
yet you position yourself as an expert
rofl
Unlike you predicted, I didn't shoot down the ICEsat data - I asked if you cared to understand the differences in the estimates and why you thought it was justified that Anthony Watts believed that ICEsat information should be thought as disproving GRACE's. Ironically, you dismiss global warming data as inaccurate and poorly modeled, yet instantly accept as truth data that matches your goal conclusion. Again, the definition of confirmation bias.
I may not be a climatologist but I am a man of science. Your argument that because none of us you mentioned is an expert in climate change does not mean we all have to be ignorant fools who shouldn't be logical and can't base our non-expert opinions on facts at least. I may not be an expert and am not arguing as one, but as someone who is capable of critical thinking and being an independent thinker instead of someone who takes their party's conclusions as my own. Your entire argument is based upon Appeal to Authority of a tiny minority of "experts", and yet you have disregarded that there is a climate expert in the thread who has repeatedly posted evidence and data that you have brushed aside. You use as a source a weatherman who has never published a peer-reviewed work on climate change but writes books skeptical of the science. As someone who isn't an expert, why do you see yourself as better able to conclude that it's all bull, especially based on another non-expert's conclusions?
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Originally posted by gwb72tii View Postrwh, you're a bore
you have no better understanding of the science than me, herbal, cale etc
yet you position yourself as an expert
rofl
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Originally posted by BraveUlysses View Postwell, he's basically a piece of shit liar, so what can you really expect
Spewing BS and then not expecting people to recount him with facts to disprove his inaccuracies and point out his fallacious arguments is asinine.
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Originally posted by cale View PostHe doesn't admit he's pushing false information because he's genuine in his ignorance, he actually believes the shit he spouts off on. That's why it's so damn entertaining.
so when credible climates scientists disagree with the AGW camp and it's assertions/postulations/hypotheses, the very fact they disagree means they're not credible, is that it? or do you disagree with the science, if you understand it?“There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
Sir Winston Churchill
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and speaking of hypotheses, and the scientific method
i find it interesting that the AGW camp strives to modify their models for current data when the data doesn't agree with their initial assumptions. exactly backasswards.
the AGW camp should be striving to disprove their models' predicted results once they're set to test their original hypotheses, not modify the models to fit the results“There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
Sir Winston Churchill
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Originally posted by gwb72tii View Postand speaking of hypotheses, and the scientific method
i find it interesting that the AGW camp strives to modify their models for current data when the data doesn't agree with their initial assumptions. exactly backasswards.
the AGW camp should be striving to disprove their models' predicted results once they're set to test their original hypotheses, not modify the models to fit the results
Please stop talking out of your ass about things you have no idea about. You fundamentally do not understand the basics of science, theory, models, and experimental data.Last edited by rwh11385; 11-29-2012, 01:03 PM.
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