Am I the only one that pays for my groceries?

[smooth]

I don't think that's really fair. it's more accurate to say it's a really jacked up society where eating healthy is relatively expensive compared to eating junk food.

yes, you can shop around and prepare foods and do it on a reasonable budget (I do it) but it's not cheaper, faster, or easier by any means.


as fun as it is to rail against the poor, it's not like eating unhealthy is a poor person issue as the evidence is the whole nation is collectively obese


[oh, I didn't refresh and see cale made the same point; but exodus that depends on where in the US one lives. it's very expensive to eat organic unprocessed foods where I live but yes, once portion size is adjusted it's not exhorbitant]

[mrsleeve]

Why is it last time I mentioned this kinda thing about people not paying for their food I got Lambasted for a week about it???? Whats changed

This argument sucks. The poor and young are the lowest turnout voting blocks.

However, I did notice that you aren't complaining about soc security payments and medicare benefits which easily constitute much more federal spending and you can actually make an argument about those programs being little more than bribing voters with public money. Social security isn't even means-tested so you have lots of people collecting it when they don't need it.

Argument does not suck, in fact its 100% valid and seems to be working well. read the book I mentioned a few posts back. You might be kinda surprised what you learn . Shit even the founders warned of this kinda shit

Next WHY THE FUCK SHOULD S.S. be fucking means tested????

from the last time we had this little talk

why should we all have to pay into the system, then because some of us worked harder, got lucky, were smarter with our money and investments, Lived with out things and with in our means all our lives. So we can have the savings, and income stream when we retire........

HAVE TO FORFITE all those funds we had confiscated from our pay during our working years, because some bureaucrats in DC think we dont need it. That is bull shit anyway you cut it. even you know this.

Fresh vegetables, fruits and lean meats distributed to the population would be immensely better for the entire country. It's fucking bizarro world in America that our poor simply do not know how to cook for themselves (in general). The poor not knowing how to cook for themselves...this condition has never really existed in human history.

HUH Are you fucking nuts?? NO ............. Bread, Milk, Eggs, Beans, Rice, taters. SMALL amounts of Cheap cuts or ground meats, fresh veggies and fruits, and generic caned goods. Thats all Food assistance should be good for, if not less equaling only the very bare essentials as an incentive to get the FUCK OFF THE SYSTEM

[Exodus_2pt0]

[oh, I didn't refresh and see cale made the same point; but exodus that depends on where in the US one lives. it's very expensive to eat organic unprocessed foods where I live but yes, once portion size is adjusted it's not exhorbitant]

I sometimes forget that I live out in farm land...

[mujjuman]

I had some obese guy buy food t walmart using his NY benefits card... I felt kinda bad for him. When i went out to the parking lot, he had a brand new LCI E60 with 22 inch chrome rimz and neon lights underneath. I was like wtf.

[smooth]

that was me brah, that's how I roll with all the ducats I saved not buying food with mah phat loot from crack sales yo

[Fusion]

On what Sleve and the guy about pizza said:

In 16th century Naples a Galette flatbread was referred to as a pizza. A dish of the poor people, it was sold in the street and was not considered a kitchen recipe for a long time.

Some people would be very surprised to learn how much material you could buy for the price of four Dominoe's.
But it's no surprise that people, who are too damn lazy to work are also too damn lazy to cook for themselves and not pay the fast food premium.

So yes, the food stamps + "food stamps store" is a good idea. If it was up to me, I'd make the lazy asses hunt and scavenge on a goddamn island.
We are just starting with food stamps over here because the socialists liked to pay out cash that ended up in slots and alcohol. Curious to see how it works, I predict an underground exchange system with percentages made by some third party scum.

[Threehz]

Thanks for the encouraging words guys!

There are so many easy solutions to society's problems, nobody has the balls to make it happen though.

First.
Unemployed? Get paid to work at local city run farms. Boosh!

Second.
Hungry? You get X credit to spend at local city run farms (above mentioned). Boosh!

Hmm what else can we solve?

Oh, let's legalize marijuana!
Government collects massive taxes, tons of lazy people now have jobs and can stop living off welfare, TONS of inmates released and TONS of people not being arrested resulting in HUGE amounts of government money not being spent, illegals crossing/smuggling marijuana into country ends, etc etc... Boosh!

You know what, with all the money the government would save/make doing those three things, we could have proper public education in this country, shit maybe even fully help people pay for college education making our country smarter and wealthier in every aspect.

But who wants to do things that would help everyone out and give us a prosperous future?

[smooth]

what are you going to do with the 2 million people you're planning on letting out of jail and prison? you think the unemployment rate is bad now...

[Fusion]

Hell, turn prisons into huge farms = win/win.
Prison made foods go to inmates and ppl on welfare. People on welfare can rotate shifts and do jobs with dangerous tools. Unemplyed person sees what the jail environment is like and is motivated to get a real job.
Employed tax payer doesn't have to pay for either group.

[Threehz]

Win Win Win and Win. All those released inmates will get jobs or join the unemployment farm force!

[smooth]

sounds like a brilliant plan it's amazing no one has thought of such things before

[Fusion]

A lot of the usual gardening tools could be made out of rubber to make them safe. Yea, they'd be harder to work with, but why make their job easy?

[mrsleeve]

what a happy little utopian feudal society your contemplating starting......

[Killacortes]

I pay for my groceries too bro. :)

[Fusion]

A Kibbutz for example isn't feudal, just self-sustainable. Plus inmates already have jobs.
I wonder what percentage of the tax payer inmate money is food.