Calling all atheists, new-age, against the norm thinkers

[slaterd]

Congratulations, they got you with the fear mongering. Same logic got us into a war not too long ago.

elaborate please sir?

[joshh]

Congratulations, they got you with the fear mongering. Same logic got us into a war not too long ago.

Hate to break it you but you just agreed with me.

[Turf1600]

Good thing you weren't born into some other culture otherwise you might be worshiping the wrong god! Using the same logic you could have ended up a Muslim or a Hindu or who knows what. Heaven's gate maybe? I mean what are the chances that you were born into the right culture which worships the right god?

This was the basic cause for my initial doubts as a youngster. No one has control over what they are exposed to.

[joshh]

This was the basic cause for my initial doubts as a youngster. No one has control over what they are exposed to.

But you still have a choice.

[slaterd]

With the way the world is it's kind of hard to throw away your community or family's beliefs for your own. Some do, but it's more complicated in different countries.

[smooth]

No, school and the dictionary taught me that proper nouns (names) should be capitalized. Like you're just trying to disect this into the most minute of things that is just making you come off cocky and arrogant. We both told you exactly where we received our morals and then you're trying to twist into something different.

So if someone doesn't do that thing you're talking about with the capitalization do you think that might be a cue as to how to interpret the statements?

Would you please clarify to me how me asking you for clarification is coming off as cocky, arrogant, or twisting your statements?

If you re-read the responses to that post we're discussing I don't see how one could come away thinking someone posting like joshh was being antagonized by me rather than the other way around. I'm interesting to hear how you come away with a different impression.

Good thing you weren't born into some other culture otherwise you might be worshiping the wrong god! Using the same logic you could have ended up a Muslim or a Hindu or who knows what. Heaven's gate maybe? I mean what are the chances that you were born into the right culture which worships the right god?

Good point. One could indeed use that logical construction to reach any sort of belief structure that one wanted regardless of someone or something telling that person to do so.

Do you find it interesting that my post creating an formulation of understanding of how "faith" in a deity could be reached individualistically is the one that has garnered so much attention and backlash from the atheists claiming to be unencumbered by external dictums? I already stated that I do.

[slaterd]

[quote=smooth;2941729]So if someone doesn't do that thing you're talking about with the capitalization do you think that might be a cue as to how to interpret the statements?

Would you please clarify to me how me asking you for clarification is coming off as cocky, arrogant, or twisting your statements?

If you re-read the responses to that post we're discussing I don't see how one could come away thinking someone posting like joshh was being antagonized by me rather than the other way around. I'm interesting to hear how you come away with a different impression.

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FINE!!! god, God, GOD. There! Everyone's happy. Sorry man but you're an arrogant prick.

[smooth]

So if someone doesn't do that thing you're talking about with the capitalization do you think that might be a cue as to how to interpret the statements?

Would you please clarify to me how me asking you for clarification is coming off as cocky, arrogant, or twisting your statements?

If you re-read the responses to that post we're discussing I don't see how one could come away thinking someone posting like joshh was being antagonized by me rather than the other way around. I'm interesting to hear how you come away with a different impression.

FINE!!! god, God, GOD. There! Everyone's happy. Sorry man but you're an arrogant prick.

slaterd,
Why are you so concerned with making everyone happy?
More to the point, why are you even concerned with the concept of happiness?

[Turf1600]

But you still have a choice.

You absolutely do not. If I was born black I'd be a different man than I am now. Where is the choice in that? What if I was born in the 1920s? People are born as a blank slate and are formed by their surroundings. People are also subject to the whims of the world. If my face was scalded by hot oil tomorrow I may lose my position in management and get set on a different life track that ends with a polar opposite result. That can not and will not be my choice. It's nice to think that people are in control and get to decide their outcome but it is not the case. All we can do is remain commited to quality decision making and hope for the best.

[Turf1600]

slaterd,
Why are you so concerned with making everyone happy?
More to the point, why are you even concerned with the concept of happiness?

What else is there to be concerned with? Life as I know it will end with my body. Considering the slim probability of my existence I think it's worthwhile to make the best of my short life. With that said, why would I want anything different for anyone else? A life fulled with turmoil would be an absolute shame.

If you're not trolling I'm very concerned with you. Your moral fibers seem to be the key ingredient of metamucil with the end result being roughly the same.

[smooth]

For someone repeatedly posting about the importance of respecting others it's interesting that you, and others professing similar, repeatedly personally attack me.

Does that bring you happiness?

If it helps, you needn't be concerned with me.

[joshh]

You absolutely do not. If I was born black I'd be a different man than I am now. Where is the choice in that? What if I was born in the 1920s? People are born as a blank slate and are formed by their surroundings. People are also subject to the whims of the world. If my face was scalded by hot oil tomorrow I may lose my position in management and get set on a different life track that ends with a polar opposite result. That can not and will not be my choice. It's nice to think that people are in control and get to decide their outcome but it is not the case. All we can do is remain commited to quality decision making and hope for the best.

I was born into Scientology and made the concious choice to leave that fucking cult. You always have a choice. You might be set for life at a young age in a certain direction but you can always change that.

[Turf1600]

For someone repeatedly posting about the importance of respecting others it's interesting that you, and others professing similar, repeatedly personally attack me.

Does that bring you happiness?

If it helps, you needn't be concerned with me.

When did I personally attack you? When you question why anyone would be concerned with the happiness of others you are pretty much announcing that you are selfish. I don't know what else I'm supposed to make of that. Otherwise, I am concerned and I hope that you find balance in life. Everything you're saying is just disturbing and generally questionable.

So are you trolling or are you saying what you really believe?

[Turf1600]

I was born into Scientology and made the concious choice to leave that fucking cult. You always have a choice. You might be set for life at a young age in a certain direction but you can always change that.

Like I said, it's nice to believe that but it's a very limited ideal. What you did was the result of a seemingly quality decision but you have to realize that your circumstance allowed it.

[smooth]

When did I personally attack you?

Did you post this?

Your moral fibers seem to be the key ingredient of metamucil with the end result being roughly the same.

When you question why anyone would be concerned with the happiness of others you are pretty much announcing that you are selfish.

That's an interesting false binary you've constructed there.