If we have the proof, then why are we sitting around?

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  • grahamsy2k
    E30 Addict
    • Sep 2010
    • 400
    #1

    If we have the proof, then why are we sitting around?

    So I've heard/seen that:

    People have found that the document Obama submitted to the White House as his Birth Certificate has multiple manipulations on it.

    The hospital that Obama was supposedly born at "lost" the records

    That Obama has called for a media blackout of stuff like this ^^

    If we have this evidence then WHY THE FUCK IS NOTHING DONE. Why do we continue to let him ruin our country. We shouldn't even have a doubt in our mind about where he was born. I don't understand.

    I don't understand why we let him and congress slowly and secretly destroy the bill of rights...

    I don't understand why we are letting him and the rest of the idiots in washington run our country, when we all see it going down hill...

    And if in the end we find that Obama did lie, will he go to jail for fraud?

    Someone Please, explain this to me. Am I missing something? Is everything really alright, and Im just making stuff up?




    We need a serious change. Our system of government is way outdated.
    All just means to an end.
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    • frankenbeemer
      R3VLimited
      • Sep 2009
      • 2260
      #2
      Originally posted by grahamsy2k
      WHY THE FUCK IS NOTHING DONE.
      It may be because we don't have the proof.
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        • mccor023
          Mod Crazy
          • Jul 2011
          • 683
          #3
          Originally posted by frankenbeemer
          It may be because we don't have the proof.
          I was talking about this with my wife this morning. Funny thing in news and politics, is a rumor or piece of information does not need to be true or validated in order for it to be reported. With free press 20-30-100 people could start saying something and before you know it an idea is now fact on the "news"
          I love that people ask stupid questions so I dont have.

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            • mrsleeve
              I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
              • Mar 2005
              • 16385
              #4
              the thing is if there is enough "proof" there is not enough will. There is far too much at stake , not that I subscribe to the 'birther" theory. But there is a century s worth of "progress" at stake and those that control the information are in on it assuming there is something to be in on the first place

              He is a citizen that much I think is true, there are far easier things to go after him for that a iffy BC
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                • Roysneon
                  R3V Elite
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 4505
                  #5
                  Originally posted by mccor023
                  I was talking about this with my wife this morning. Funny thing in news and politics, is a rumor or piece of information does not need to be true or validated in order for it to be reported. With free press 20-30-100 people could start saying something and before you know it an idea is now fact on the "news"
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                  Originally posted by mbonanni
                  I hate modded emtree, I hate modded cawrz, I hate jdm, I hate swag, I hate stanceyolokids, I hate bags (on cars), I hate stuff that is slowz, I hate tires.

                  I am a pursit now.

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                    • Roysneon
                      R3V Elite
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 4505
                      #6
                      Also,grahamsy is a fucking moron. I thought this was established?
                      For all things 24v, check out Markert Motorworks!
                      Originally posted by mbonanni
                      I hate modded emtree, I hate modded cawrz, I hate jdm, I hate swag, I hate stanceyolokids, I hate bags (on cars), I hate stuff that is slowz, I hate tires.

                      I am a pursit now.

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                        • Turf1600
                          R3V OG
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 9815
                          #7
                          If there was enough proof it'd happen. Because there's not, anyone who seriously pursues the issue faces the possibility of a seriously tarnished reputation when they're wrong.

                          Also, you're a fool if you think that the president is what's wrong with our government. If that's the change you seek then clearly you have no concept of how to appropriately guide your efforts.

                          If you still believe that you are right, please complete the following:

                          1. Make a prioritized list describing the faults of our government
                          2. Detail the root cause of each issue
                          3. Write out an action plan that appropriately addresses each issue and it's associated root cause
                          "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                            • Turf1600
                              R3V OG
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 9815
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Roysneon
                              Also,grahamsy is a fucking moron. I thought this was established?
                              We will let him prove that for us.
                              "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                                • grahamsy2k
                                  E30 Addict
                                  • Sep 2010
                                  • 400
                                  #9
                                  If any of you actually read what I said, and didn't put your own spin on it you would have found this:

                                  1. I was looking for insight on the things I said. I truely wanted someone to explain things to me. Not to be jackasses
                                  2. I didn't say I believe the things I stated
                                  3. and Yes I do think Obama is a problem with our country, but I also included congress. and I should have included other people in politics.

                                  In no way shape or form do I hate government. I think we just need a change in the way we run things.


                                  Take this as you will.
                                  All just means to an end.

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                                    • Turf1600
                                      R3V OG
                                      • Nov 2006
                                      • 9815
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by grahamsy2k
                                      If any of you actually read what I said, and didn't put your own spin on it
                                      I feel like I explained it as simply as possible but apparently you didn't like my answer and determined that I was being a jackass.

                                      2. I didn't say I believe the things I stated
                                      3. and Yes I do think Obama is a problem with our country

                                      I think we just need a change in the way we run things.
                                      That seems like a contradiction to me.

                                      If you still believe that you are right, please complete the following:

                                      1. Make a prioritized list describing the faults of our government
                                      2. Detail the root cause of each issue
                                      3. Write out an action plan that appropriately addresses each issue and it's associated root cause
                                      "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                                        • grahamsy2k
                                          E30 Addict
                                          • Sep 2010
                                          • 400
                                          #11
                                          By "things I stated" I meant the birthplace topic
                                          All just means to an end.

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                                            • Turf1600
                                              R3V OG
                                              • Nov 2006
                                              • 9815
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by grahamsy2k
                                              By "things I stated" I meant the birthplace topic
                                              Oh, ok. I thought you meant the large amount of other things that you stated - not just that stuff. Sorry.

                                              So I guess you're not going to write that action plan?
                                              "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                                                • grahamsy2k
                                                  E30 Addict
                                                  • Sep 2010
                                                  • 400
                                                  #13
                                                  Yeah, I should have made that more clear.
                                                  All just means to an end.

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                                                    • JTapper
                                                      E30 Modder
                                                      • Sep 2009
                                                      • 847
                                                      #14
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                                                        • Roysneon
                                                          R3V Elite
                                                          • Apr 2010
                                                          • 4505
                                                          #15
                                                          Guy 1: "Man, the government is messed up. Politics is messed up. Should be totally changed."

                                                          Guy 2: "You're right. What are your suggestions to fix all that?"

                                                          Guy 1: "......"
                                                          For all things 24v, check out Markert Motorworks!
                                                          Originally posted by mbonanni
                                                          I hate modded emtree, I hate modded cawrz, I hate jdm, I hate swag, I hate stanceyolokids, I hate bags (on cars), I hate stuff that is slowz, I hate tires.

                                                          I am a pursit now.

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