U.S. likely to make a profit on bailouts

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  • tjts1
    E30 Mastermind
    • May 2007
    • 1851

    #1

    U.S. likely to make a profit on bailouts

    WASHINGTON — The Obama administration probably will make a profit on all the bailout money spent to prop up banks and other companies, as well as struggling homeowners, devastated by the Great Recession, according to the latest federal projections.

    Over the next 10 years, the taxpayer-funded bailouts could produce as much as $163 billion in profits, in a best-case scenario, from repayments, stock sales, dividends and interest paid by banking and insurance firms, auto companies and mortgage finance companies.

    That's a stark turnaround from predictions of hundreds of billions in losses in the immediate aftermath of the unprecedented aid, starting at the end of the George W. Bush administration.

    The projections were sketched out in a Treasury report released Friday that highlighted the positive effect of the response to the financial crisis by the Bush and the Obama administrations.

    Senior Treasury officials said they wanted to dispel misperceptions that the controversial bailouts, including the $700-billion Troubled Asset Relief Program, have been ineffective and costly.

    "Collectively, these programs — carried out by both a Republican and a Democratic administration — were effective in preventing the collapse of the financial system, in restarting economic growth and in restoring access to credit and capital," Timothy Massad, Treasury's assistant secretary for financial stability, wrote in a blog post Friday.
    Damn, now we have to find something else to bitch about.
  • z31maniac
    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
    • Dec 2007
    • 17566

    #2
    Could.........in the best case scenario.........

    I know words is tough, but that is basically saying even in the best case scenario, it may not make money.

    Kind of like unemployment never getting above 8%, the 5%+ GDP growth, etc etc etc.

    And even IF IT DOES, it shouldn't be the govt's job to pick winners and losers. But many will never agree on that issue.
    Last edited by z31maniac; 04-14-2012, 07:45 AM.
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    • mrsleeve
      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
      • Mar 2005
      • 16385

      #3
      ^

      All that again.
      Originally posted by Fusion
      If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
      The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


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      • BraveUlysses
        No R3VLimiter
        • Jun 2007
        • 3781

        #4
        Originally posted by tjts1
        Damn, now we have to find something else to bitch about.
        The ends don't justify the means. What a fucking terrible conclusion to reach.

        The big banks are a huge problem and propping them up after they bet against themselves is morally offensive.
        Last edited by BraveUlysses; 04-14-2012, 09:10 AM.

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        • mrsleeve
          I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
          • Mar 2005
          • 16385

          #5
          ^

          So we agree. On something for a change????
          Originally posted by Fusion
          If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
          The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


          The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

          Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
          William Pitt-

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          • Ryan Stewart
            I Love Miatas
            • Oct 2003
            • 8978

            #6
            Actually most of the bank loans have been repaid and most collected a tidy sum of interest. The ones still outstanding were manufacturing. Despite Chevy claiming they repaid the loan they did it with another loan so we are still on the hook for them.
            Im now E30less.
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            • joshh
              R3V OG
              • Aug 2004
              • 6195

              #7
              How does that balance our National debt? So we need to just keep handing out more and more money so we can make more in return.....fuck that was easy. No wonder our debt is being paid off so fast.
              Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

              "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison

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              • Morrison
                E30 Addict
                • May 2006
                • 430

                #8
                Would anyone like to take a guess where'd we be without any bailouts? Anyone?
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                • Ryan Stewart
                  I Love Miatas
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 8978

                  #9
                  In roughly the same place. It really just slowed the process down. The sane thing that is going down in Europe.
                  Im now E30less.
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                  • gwb72tii
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 3864

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Morrison
                    Would anyone like to take a guess where'd we be without any bailouts? Anyone?
                    further along to recovery
                    failure is part of the process, or used to be, and is vital to the efficient allocation of resources.
                    “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
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                    • joshh
                      R3V OG
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 6195

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Morrison
                      Would anyone like to take a guess where'd we be without any bailouts? Anyone?
                      Where would we be today if the government didn't help create so many false markets?...anyone?




                      Originally posted by gwb72tii
                      further along to recovery
                      failure is part of the process, or used to be, and is vital to the efficient allocation of resources.

                      Fucking yes.
                      Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

                      "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison

                      ‎"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen" Barack Obama

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                      • herbivor
                        E30 Fanatic
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 1420

                        #12
                        Originally posted by joshh
                        Where would we be today if the government didn't help create so many false markets?...anyone?
                        I think most economists would say in the 1800's still. But of course, we're not economists, so we can imagine whatever we want. I'll pretend we would have hover boards and space colonies on Mars by now.
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                        • mrsleeve
                          I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 16385

                          #13
                          ^


                          That's if we didn't have the dark ages.
                          Originally posted by Fusion
                          If a car is the epitome of freedom, than an electric car is house arrest with your wife titty fucking your next door neighbor.
                          The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money. -Alexis de Tocqueville


                          The Desire to Save Humanity is Always a False Front for the Urge to Rule it- H. L. Mencken

                          Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants.
                          William Pitt-

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                          • Ryan Stewart
                            I Love Miatas
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 8978

                            #14
                            Originally posted by joshh
                            Where would we be today if the government didn't help create so many false markets?...anyone?
                            Also fair, changing the allowable restrictions on mortgage lending and what the NGOs would back played a bit part of the "boom" in the first place.
                            Im now E30less.
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                            • gwb72tii
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 3864

                              #15
                              Originally posted by herbivor
                              I think most economists would say in the 1800's still. But of course, we're not economists, so we can imagine whatever we want. I'll pretend we would have hover boards and space colonies on Mars by now.
                              private enterprise (al gore) invented the internet, the most disruptive tech in history
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