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  • rwh11385
    lance_entities
    • Oct 2003
    • 18403

    #1

    Won one for the Gipper



    Maybe Walker won tonight because his plan worked... ?

    The truth, however, is that the reforms not only are saving money already; they’re doing so with little disruption to services. In early August, noticing the trend, the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reported that Milwaukee would save more in health-care and pension costs than it would lose in state aid, leaving the city $11 million ahead in 2012—despite Mayor Tom Barrett’s prediction in March that Walker’s budget “makes our structural deficit explode.”

    The collective-bargaining component of Walker’s plan has yielded especially large financial dividends for school districts. Before the reform, many districts’ annual union contracts required them to buy health insurance from WEA Trust, a nonprofit affiliated with the state’s largest teachers’ union. Once the reform limited collective bargaining to wage negotiations, districts could eliminate that requirement from their contracts and start bidding for health care on the open market. When the Appleton School District put its health-insurance contract up for bid, for instance, WEA Trust suddenly lowered its rates and promised to match any competitor’s price. Appleton will save $3 million during the current school year.

    Appleton isn’t alone. According to a report by the MacIver Institute, as of September 1, “at least 25 school districts in the Badger State had reported switching health care providers/plans or opening insurance bidding to outside companies.” The institute calculates that these steps will save the districts $211.45 per student. If the state’s other 250 districts currently served by WEA Trust follow suit, the savings statewide could reach hundreds of millions of dollars.

    At the outset of the public-union standoff, educators had made dire predictions that Walker’s reforms would force schools to fire teachers. In February, to take one example, Madison School District Superintendent Dan Nerad predicted that 289 teachers in his district would be laid off. Walker insisted that his reforms were actually a job-retention program: by accepting small concessions in health and pension benefits, he argued, school districts would be able to spare hundreds of teachers’ jobs. The argument proved sound. So far, Nerad’s district has laid off no teachers at all, a pattern that has held in many of the state’s other large school districts. No teachers were laid off in Beloit and LaCrosse; Eau Claire saw a reduction of two teachers, while Racine and Wausau each laid off one. The Wauwatosa School District, which faced a $6.5 million shortfall, anticipated slashing 100 jobs—yet the new pension and health contributions saved them all.

    The benefits to school districts aren’t just fiscal, moreover. Thanks to Walker’s collective-bargaining reforms, the Brown Deer school district in suburban Milwaukee can implement a performance-pay system for its best teachers—a step that could improve educational outcomes.


    It's fitting to have Scott Walker defeat the recall vote on the anniversary of Ronald Reagan's death.
  • joshh
    R3V OG
    • Aug 2004
    • 6195

    #2
    I'm sitting back laughing at the Unions losing money for nothing.
    Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

    "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the [federal] government." ~ James Madison

    ‎"If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen" Barack Obama

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    • z31maniac
      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
      • Dec 2007
      • 17566

      #3
      That's great, hopefully more people will wake up to the idea of leaving within your means.

      Austerity works, look at Estonia.
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      • gwb72tii
        No R3VLimiter
        • Nov 2005
        • 3864

        #4
        69% of voters polled thought recall elections should be for misconduct or never, for any reason.
        nice to have some common sense prevail.
        “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
        Sir Winston Churchill

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        • Vedubin01
          R3V Elite
          • Jun 2006
          • 5852

          #5
          but... but... but...
          Build your own dreams, or someone else will hire you to build theirs!

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          • herbivor
            E30 Fanatic
            • Apr 2009
            • 1420

            #6
            Being the liberal here, I too agree that the recall was ridiculous. I don't agree with Walker's decisions and would probably have been pissed off as a resident of WI, but if the majority voted for him and he's doing what he said he was going to do, that's democracy. Deal with it. Reminds me of the right's bitching about Obama.
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            • z31maniac
              I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
              • Dec 2007
              • 17566

              #7
              Originally posted by herbivor
              Being the liberal here, I too agree that the recall was ridiculous. I don't agree with Walker's decisions and would probably have been pissed off as a resident of WI, but if the majority voted for him and he's doing what he said he was going to do, that's democracy. Deal with it. Reminds me of the right's bitching about Obama.
              I guess I don't see what's wrong with bringing public sector benefits more inline with the private sector (he asked them to pay 12% of their healthcare costs, for shame!). At my last job the employees paid 50% of our insurance.

              Especially considering they couldn't continue to pay those benefits.

              He reduced benefits, but didn't cut any jobs (how many jobs did Obama scupper with the GM reorg?). Their property taxes have actually gone down for the first time in 10+ years.

              Took a multi-billion dollar shortfall, to a surplus. And the state has created 30,000+ private sector jobs, again, without cutting any gov't jobs.

              It sounds like he's done quite a good job.

              What would you have wanted him to do different?

              Like I said, look at Estonia. They took MUCH harsher austerity measures during the initial years of the crisis, reduced their overall debt to 6% of their economy, and now are growing their economy at 6-7x the rate of the rest of the Eurozone.
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              • gwb72tii
                No R3VLimiter
                • Nov 2005
                • 3864

                #8
                Originally posted by herbivor
                Being the liberal here, I too agree that the recall was ridiculous. I don't agree with Walker's decisions and would probably have been pissed off as a resident of WI, but if the majority voted for him and he's doing what he said he was going to do, that's democracy. Deal with it. Reminds me of the right's bitching about Obama.
                no, the right bitching about obama is democracy in action and is not equivilant to a recall or impeachment
                “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
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                • rwh11385
                  lance_entities
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 18403

                  #9
                  Originally posted by z31maniac
                  That's great, hopefully more people will wake up to the idea of living within your means.

                  Austerity works, look at Estonia.
                  I think that is a big part of the issue (government controlling their spending / balancing their budget) - but was seen very differently from both sides. A leader must make hard or unpopular decisions when there is need to, such as lack of resources. Sure, one could have no backbone and try to be everything to everyone (or at least his supporters) or not care about limitations like a budget... but these are not the things of good leaders nor responsible.

                  Just because he sought to rein in the budget and control the costs of teachers does not mean he thinks that education is not important or hates teachers by any means. He actually helped teachers by breaking up the monopoly their health care provider had (free market wooo!)

                  What is truly telling is when Obama labeling Paul Ryan's budget as social Darwinism for some of the same reforms that Clinton made. We'll need to make some tough decisions and re-work broken systems when the baby boomers retire and the mandatory programs create even more strain on the nation's public finances. We also need to be sure that there is accountability in the execution of our programs.

                  It's like saying that you don't love your children if you are not spoiling them sometimes with public finance. Especially with "temporary" moves like the student loan rate reduction. People are protesting that rates are going to double, but they were only at that rate FOR A SINGLE YEAR. It might not be popular when things people have grown used to or expected need to be taken away or reduced, but that doesn't mean it is not the right or smart thing to do. If we always promised more and more and never gave anything up, our economy would start being constructed like European's ones and less like Singapore's.

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