More truth coming out about Obama.

[z31maniac]

I love how obama-socialism threads bring out the perfect Pavlovian response from every single poster you'd expect it to. 100% of the time it works every time.

I love how you never post anything of substance, simply make throwaway sarcastic remarks in an attempt to look witty.

[kronus]

I love how you never post anything of substance, simply make throwaway sarcastic remarks in an attempt to look witty.

You must have missed the global warming threads of 2011.

[kronus]

And............it's not in the rest of the world?

It will continue to fall as people realize we are going to have to make sacrifices and suffer to make up for all of the years of wreckless spending.

falling with respect to the rest of the world ;)

[z31maniac]

falling with respect to the rest of the world ;)

Got some info to back up that assertion? Or how it still compares to the rest of the world?

[freeride53]

oh man.

[freeride53]

not this again.

[joshh]

and falling...

...the more Socialized we become.

[jrobie79]

The only reason I currently have a fairly good standard of living is the education I received here, something that's being actively dismantled by tightening budgets and conservative anti-education efforts.

To say that removing the federal oversight of education would abolish education as a whole in this country is absolute nonsense...people were still going to school before the waffleswaffleswaffles was created. By allowing the states to control it and not having federal mandates, the system would be more efficient and effective

[gwb72tii]

^^^
in fact i'd argue it's self evident federal oversight and funding of education has lead to the fairly dismil quality/high cost problem we have

[BraveUlysses]

To say that removing the federal oversight of education would abolish education as a whole in this country is absolute nonsense...people were still going to school before the waffleswaffleswaffles was created. By allowing the states to control it and not having federal mandates, the system would be more efficient and effective

I think the waffleswaffleswaffles wasn't as intrusive as it now is, until some point after 2000, maybe when NCLB was passed.

IMO the bigger problem still stands at American cultural rot and the rise of consumerism to the point of absurdity--we spend a lot of time and effort telling ourselves that we need to be consumers first and foremost and it's probably hurt us in the long run.

[Turf1600]

[mrsleeve]

whale wars


LOL

[mar1t1me]

Stanley Kurtz isn't exactly a non-biased source.....hahaha

I'm with Maher on this one..... and he roasts both parties fairly well here....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laxOAV-8Jn4

[Bearmw]

IMO the bigger problem still stands at American cultural rot and the rise of consumerism to the point of absurdity--we spend a lot of time and effort telling ourselves that we need to be consumers first and foremost and it's probably hurt us in the long run.[/quote]

^ so true...now that reminds me I think I need some new cf parts for my E30.

[deutschman]

To be fair, do you think you would have the same standard of living or opportunities in Europe or Russia? Do you think you would have a higher standard of living/quality of life/more chances of advancement?

Yes. I have lived there, and I have lived better there. Are there trade offs. Yes. There are things you can do and get here that you can not in Europe, but that applies the other way around as well.
In Germany I can go to school for free through college and get a GREAT education and not just an ok one. I can severely injure my self or get cancer with out having to worry that the hospital bills will put me and my family on the street. I can get three months of payed vacation every year so that I can spend some time with my family. If I loose my job the government will set me up with a job, even if it is not the one I want to do I know I will have a roof over my head.
I am not trying to say the grass is greener on the other side of the ocean. Germany and the rest of Europe has many problems, but that does not mean that America can not learn something from places like Germany. They could learn a few things from us as well. People should stop being so stubborn and close minded. Open your mind to other ideas, it does not mean you need to except them or even like them but you might learn something you will be surprised about. All this McCarthyism is not healthy.