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[FunfGan]

Are you falling back on "prayer made the doctors and nurses work harder"? Really? How cute :)


And, I'm intending to say that if a scientist became Christian (this doesn't make them a Christian Scientist, by the way) late in their life, that doesn't attribute the discovery of Buckyballs to Christian Science.

I'm not trying to say that. I'm saying that it's the same mind.

[slaterd]

I love reading debates and noticing the differences in grammar from regular threads to debate worthy threads. Everyone tries to turn into an English College professor. Some fail....miserably. In a debate you can't make up words, you've been watching too much George Bush. Anyways, proceed with pointless long words that only make you look like a "know it all" prick.

[JinormusJ]

The Klan is protected in having free speech and the right to assemble, but that doesn't mean that many people would go to a Klan Chicken Shack. Maybe if they were white, protestant, and hated minorities (like the GOP) - actually, a lot like CFA. And if such a business was on the wrong side of history and was at risk of hostile work environment lawsuits, local officials don't have to believe it is a good use of space to open a venue for it.

You've got some ass coming in here and making statements without the raw facts. I'm not going to read the whole topic but I was outraged at your own ignorance in this above statement.

FIRST OFF. CFA has never claimed anything. Dan Cathy was simply asked, as a citizen, not as the corporation, what his beliefs were and he expressed them. Then, because of Controversial media and him being the CEO, tey wrote the stories in such a way where they depicted him speaking on behalf of the corporation. Somewhere along the lines, something was twisted as Dan never spoke on behalf of the corporation, and CFA is an equal rights employer.

Your going to compare CFA to the Klan? WTFreak?
On what grounds? Because you don't believe what the CEO, and not the corporation believes, so your gonna look for little coincidences in the situation an twist it for your point? That's like saying you don't like someones dad because he hates Jews then comparing his kid to Hitler. What the heck does his kid have anything to do with this..?

Freak, I even work at CFA and one of my shift leads is gay. Get over yourselves. It seems like everyone on all sides just wants something to fight about

[kronus]

Ah yes, the common assumption that prayer works only through mystical forces, and not through people or things. How cute :)


And also, what are you intending to say? The exact quote just said that after finally looking at intelligent design, he came to realize that it was a viable view... So I'm confused? Also, after seeing cale's last post, that is all irrelevant to the topic at hand.

Are you falling back on "prayer made the doctors and nurses work harder"? Really? How cute :)


And, I'm intending to say that if a scientist became Christian (this doesn't make them a Christian Scientist, by the way) late in their life, that doesn't attribute the discovery of Buckyballs to Christian Science.

[cale]

Intimidation and belittling... traits of an intellectual?

When did I ever claim myself as an intellectual? I've merely pointed out that layman's are not qualified to decide what does and does not make sense in the sciences. To truly understand requires you to do the research yourself or put trust in those that make it their profession...I've chosen to do the latter.

Keep trying to weaken my arguments by making me out to be an asshole. My lack of tact doesn't discredit me in the least, and your desperation to label as a dick instead of addressing my arguments shows me you have nothing.

[dnick]

Stuart, you like to use commas a lot. That is all.

[FunfGan]

The word you're looking for is abiogenesis.

Thank you sir. See? This is why I come in here, to learn.

[FunfGan]

oh, you mean this one?


Get back to me when the healing through prayer thing works out.

Ah yes, the common assumption that prayer works only through mystical forces, and not through people or things. How cute :)


And also, what are you intending to say? The exact quote just said that after finally looking at intelligent design, he came to realize that it was a viable view... So I'm confused? Also, after seeing cale's last post, that is all irrelevant to the topic at hand.

[kronus]

The word you're looking for is abiogenesis.

[FunfGan]

I have no problem with them, considering many Christian biologists accept evolution as do many leaders in the theist world. If they are able to seperate their religious beliefs from influencing their research (most are) great, although there are large numbers who use their "research" to push their beliefs. Research usually just ignorant misunderstandings of others work. There is very little debate in the academic world to the validity of evolution, that says something.

Ah yes, galactic seeding. Evolution nor myself are going to make claims as to what sparked the first living organism, thats an entirely different science. Evolutions failure to explain that which it never intends to explain in the first place is not proof of if being a failed theory.

Ah, do to avoid any misunderstanding/ interpretations, you're simply arguing evolution purely on it's own, as apposed to everything simply being as it was the past however many years, correct? I believe I made the common(and wrong) presumption of grouping evolution with the big bang theory/ whatever you'd like to refer to it as. Therefor, by making that assumption, ruling out the fact that a form of creationism makes sense with evolution.

Am I understanding correctly now?

[kronus]

Then why/ how have they made advances in "real" science?

One such scientist discovered Buckyballs, another made significant discoveries in several galaxies, yet another the Bethe-Weizsäcker formula. So none of those are "real" discoveries?

oh, you mean this one?

Skeptical of religion most of his life, Dr Smalley became a Christian only in his last years, partly due to his intensive study of intelligent design.

Get back to me when the healing through prayer thing works out.

[cale]

Where do you stand with the many(albeit a small number in the grand scheme of things) Christian Scientists?

Also, Richard Dawkins himself said that there could have very well been a more intelligent being behind the world and it's creation. Though, he finds it more likely that it was Aliens(from where...?) rather than a sole, omnipotent being.

I have no problem with them, considering many Christian biologists accept evolution as do many leaders in the theist world. If they are able to seperate their religious beliefs from influencing their research (most are) great, although there are large numbers who use their "research" to push their beliefs. Research usually just ignorant misunderstandings of others work. There is very little debate in the academic world to the validity of evolution, that says something.

Ah yes, galactic seeding. Evolution nor myself are going to make claims as to what sparked the first living organism, thats an entirely different science. Evolutions failure to explain that which it never intends to explain in the first place is not proof of if being a failed theory.

[FunfGan]

They're not real scientists, even if the word's in the name ;)

Then why/ how have they made advances in "real" science?

One such scientist discovered Buckyballs, another made significant discoveries in several galaxies, yet another the Bethe-Weizsäcker formula. So none of those are "real" discoveries?

[markseven]

Toe-to-toe huh? It appears as though your concept of toe-to-toe is as equally poor as your own understanding of the science. I remember your stumbling over it in past threads. Best to stay out of this one as well, I don't think you can use adolescence as an excuse like funFgan can.

Intimidation and belittling... traits of an intellectual?

[kronus]

Where do you stand with the many(albeit a small number in the grand scheme of things) Christian Scientists?

They're not real scientists, even if the word's in the name ;)