Chick-fil-a

[Vedubin01]

We already have a "post a picture of your girlfriend thread". ;)

[Cliche Guevara]

So, you are saying you support Human & Pets/Livestock/Exotic Animals rights to form a contractual union?

[Vedubin01]

It's called common sense. You two, along with 99.9% of the people who support unconstitutional measures banning gay marriage, just happen to subscribe to a religion that vilifies homosexuality. Your motivation is purely religious and has nothing to do with the absurd idea that allowing gay marriage will cause marriage as a concept to lose all meaning.


A state constitution can still have provisions (gay marriage bans) that violate the US Constitution, and under the Supremacy Clause the US Constitution usurps them.

Its just a word that describes the meaning between a man and woman. How much fucking simpler can it get?

[Cliche Guevara]

show me where I have disproved this?

It's called common sense. You two, along with 99.9% of the people who support unconstitutional measures banning gay marriage, just happen to subscribe to a religion that vilifies homosexuality. Your motivation is purely religious and has nothing to do with the absurd idea that allowing gay marriage will cause marriage as a concept to lose all meaning.

That was my bad, I had confused select state's constitutions with the US constitution.

A state constitution can still have provisions (gay marriage bans) that violate the US Constitution, and under the Supremacy Clause the US Constitution usurps them.

[Farbin Kaiber]

humans are just animals. just like the rest of the species on this planet.

So, you are saying you support Human & Pets/Livestock/Exotic Animals rights to form a contractual union?

[Vedubin01]

congrats on responding with nothing. Typical.

If you ever bother to take sociology 101 you'll learn that there is no such thing as normal when it comes to human behavior. It's human behavior to rape, to murder, to dismember, to kill.

And yes, there are quite a few homosexual species that mate for life. Yet again, you do not know wtf you are talking about when it concerns human interactions. And further, there are over 1500 species that exhibit homosexual behavior. Humans are just animals. Just like the rest of the species on this planet.

all hail god!

[Kershaw]

*opinion* *opinon* *anecdotal evidence* *bullshit*

congrats on responding with nothing. typical.

if you ever bother to take sociology 101 you'll learn that there is no such thing as normal when it comes to human behavior. it's human behavior to rape, to murder, to dismember, to kill.

and yes, there are quite a few homosexual species that mate for life. yet again, you do not know wtf you are talking about when it concerns human interactions. and further, there are over 1500 species that exhibit homosexual behavior. humans are just animals. just like the rest of the species on this planet.

[FunfGan]

You need to defend this statement. You seem to be implying that the Constitution somehow supports you view that gay marriage is wrong, but that is 100% backwards from reality. As I mentioned earlier, the 14th Amendment guarantees us equal protection under the law, which was instrumental in overturning Prop. 8 in California.

That was my bad, I had confused select state's constitutions with the US constitution.

[Vedubin01]

I'm still calling bullshit that you two are taking your position because of semantics.

show me where I have disproved this?

[Cliche Guevara]

I'm still calling bullshit that you two are taking your position because of semantics. Fabrin, you must have a terrible short term memory because just last night you failed to demonstrate that allowing same-sex marriage would result in the idea of marriage to completely lose its meaning. Marriage has traditionally (by which I mean in the last century or so and only in the US. It has had very different connotations in the past and has very different connotation elsewhere in the world) been defined as involving heterosexual partners because of our poor understanding of homosexuality. It was previously viewed as a disorder, something that could be cured, or just outright ignored. We now understand that homosexuals are just as capable to long lasting, healthy relationships, as well as being just as capable of raising children as hetero couples. With that new understanding comes the justification for a ever so slightly adjusted definition of marriage, one that is already in effect in numerous states and nations.

[Vedubin01]

Wow. Just when I think you can't outdo yourself with RWNJ rhetoric, you throw in some immigrant-hating. Good job, you have exceeded my low expectations for you.

what gets me is how you picked up hate out of that example. You are just arguing to argue at this point!

I think you forget I live in Miami.

[rwh11385]

You sound like those fucking tards on CurrentTV doing expose's on people in Africa not having toilets, and that a toilet is a basic human right. Your righteous high horse, it's time to jump off before you get hurt.

Ummm, so are you now so far off the reservation that you are going off-topic and trying to make it seem like people who care for the well being and rights of others are the problem, and not people like you and vdub that would rather put their tradition or comfort before someone's rights?

Wow. Just wow.

I'm sure the men who were used to just seeing other men at the polling station were uncomfortable with the term "woman voters", but they got over it.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Why not? Why the fuck do you feel the need to deny them this basic civil right simply because it makes you feel uncomfortable? You're being absurdly selfish.

You sound like those fucking tards on CurrentTV doing expose's on people in Africa not having toilets, and that a toilet is a basic human right. Your righteous high horse, it's time to jump off before you get hurt.

[rwh11385]

When the recessive starts populating faster than the dominate.

Kinda like the Spanish in America

I don't care what people do. (As long as they get no special treatment) They can have all equal rights except the use of the "word" marriage.

Wow. Just when I think you can't outdo yourself with RWNJ rhetoric, you throw in some immigrant-hating. Good job, you have exceeded my low expectations for you.

So are left-handed people on the rise and that's why they are not normal??

Constitutional Equality does not mean you get to change the meanings of words to make things more equal. Maybe we need to abolish the word Marriage, and use two different words to describe either Heterosexual, or Homosexual contractual couplings.

How is marriage defined? If it were automatically defined only as between a man and a woman, North Carolina would have had no reason to do just that with an amendment.

Again, your care for the meaning of words (actual or just perceived) vs. someone's freedom to pursue happiness and their rights... you're ridiculous. I really have trouble understanding why you think your definition in your mind is more important than someone's freedom. Are you that selfish?

[Vedubin01]

Why not? Why the fuck do you feel the need to deny them this basic civil right simply because it makes you feel uncomfortable? You're being absurdly selfish.

Constitutional Equality does not mean you get to change the meanings of words to make things more equal. Maybe we need to abolish the word Marriage, and use two different words to describe either Heterosexual, or Homosexual contractual couplings.