Chick-fil-a

[FunfGan]

The biggest mistake with people trying to "fix" a gay person is that they assume it is a problem to be fixed in the first place. Until you realize that, you're an awful person in my opinion.

I do respect differences, hence why I said earlier; while I think it is wholly wrong, it is not something that people should push on another person to "fix" themselves. But you'll probably ignore that again, so I'm sorry you see me as a terrible person, just as I am, as well as you and everyone else on this earth is.

[rwh11385]

In the sense that both are born with a messed up brain structure? Yes. Yes I am. I believe Cliche said so himself(not my view, that they are born with different brain structure than the average person). How is that a lack of respect? It's an observational fact in that both have different brain structures.

Since when does different = messed up? That fact that you don't respect differences makes you an asshole.

Left-handed people are also born the way they are and function differently, and people can learn to switch hit, and some parents are even so cracked out that they teach them to be right... but that doesn't mean they should or it is the correct thing to do.

The biggest mistake with people trying to "fix" a gay person is that they assume it is a problem to be fixed in the first place. Until you realize that, you're an awful person in my opinion.

[FunfGan]

I see, was curious. I more fall towards your opinion, in that it isn't something that should be discouraged per say. But for me, it's just something that needn't, nor should, be brought up in that setting. It's not a teachers job to comment, discourage or encourage something like that.

[Wh33lhop]

I've missed this conversation, is your point that teachers should not be allowed to teach that being gay is wrong?

Wasn't my point. I forgot at this point but IIRC someone was complaining that teachers were being too feel-good telling kids to accept who they are etc.

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this is because the public school system is instilling each and every student that being gay is perfectly fine when in reality that shouldn't be a subject that is taught in school. teachers need to focus on doing their jobs and not bring their political and or religious beliefs into the lives of other students.

[FunfGan]

I agree that personal and political viewpoints should stay out of the classroom, but where do we draw the line? Are we really not allowed to tell kids it's ok to be gay? Seriously?

I've missed this conversation, is your point that teachers should not be allowed to teach that being gay is wrong?

[Farbin Kaiber]

All this drama/stress has caused the PR guy to have a Heart Attack and die.

[Wh33lhop]

a teacher's job is supposed to educate the students with books and tools that they have acquired from their own personal experience on the subject. that does not mean bring in their own views on religion, politics, or anything else irrelevant from the topic being taught. books teach that stuff, which is why most educate about people such as hitler, stalin, martin luther king jr, etc.


absolutely, but the teacher has no right in convincing students about their own personal believes. obviously if someone is being harassed, that is a different story but a teach should keep their believes and political views out of the damn classroom.

I agree that personal and political viewpoints should stay out of the classroom, but where do we draw the line? Are we really not allowed to tell kids it's ok to be gay? Seriously?

[FunfGan]

This explains your wheel choice.

What?

[ethrtyiS]

what is a teacher's job? perhaps teaching about historical bigotry and discrimination, and then perhaps to educate young minds about how things change for the better of those minority groups as society drops the hatred and progresses towards equality and respect for all?

a teacher's job is supposed to educate the students with books and tools that they have acquired from their own personal experience on the subject. that does not mean bring in their own views on religion, politics, or anything else irrelevant from the topic being taught. books teach that stuff, which is why most educate about people such as hitler, stalin, martin luther king jr, etc.

It is a teacher's job to ensure that their students are not harassed. Part of that is preventing harassment based on sexual orientation. Surely you aren't suggesting that teachers should sit back while kids make fun of the gay kid or the kid with the gay parents, or that there actually is something wrong with being gay? I'm not trying to read something into your post that you don't mean, but that's what I'm getting out of it.

absolutely, but the teacher has no right in convincing students about their own personal believes. obviously if someone is being harassed, that is a different story but a teach should keep their believes and political views out of the damn classroom.

[z31maniac]

In the sense that both are born with a messed up brain structure? Yes. Yes I am. I believe Cliche said so himself(not my view, that they are born with different brain structure than the average person). How is that a lack of respect? It's an observational fact in that both have different brain structures.

This explains your wheel choice.

[FunfGan]

It's not an opinion, it's a fact.

[FunfGan]

What?

[Wh33lhop]

Jesus christ.

[FunfGan]

So, are you saying that being gay is like being a sadistic serial killer?

Seriously, I'm disgusted by your complete lack of respect and am more than a little sad for you.

In the sense that both are born with a messed up brain structure? Yes. Yes I am. I believe Cliche said so himself(not my view, that they are born with different brain structure than the average person). How is that a lack of respect? It's an observational fact in that both have different brain structures.

[Wh33lhop]

Really? Their food seemed outstanding for fast food. Chicken was not greasy and was real cuts of chicken unlike McD. I honestly enjoyed their food and I never eat fast food.

They are not god's gift to fast food, they just have decent chicken and good sauces.

I am also a Christian but I believe they are Mormons or something. I think it is outstanding in this shock proof world we have now, that they still stand up for their beliefs.

Yes, I'm glad the religious can finally stand up for their traditional beliefs and oppose progress. They have been oppressed for so long!

They can stand fast in their beliefs, sure. I am glad we have the freedom to do these things. I can also stand fast in mine by not giving them my money.

Don't like it don't eat there, go drown yourself in Oreos or whatever gay pride supporting thing you wish to back. Not calling you out as homosexual supporter.

I think it's funny you think I would be offended by that. It says a lot, really.

This will not hurt the Company at all, they could pull out of Boston and still pound out insane profits.

You seem to be missing a lot of things here so I will bring you up to speed.

1. Losing one customer will not hurt the company at all, no. But a few thousand customers or more will. Now what difference would it make if every one of those customers figured they couldn't make a dent because they were just one person? I didn't make a difference when I voted, either. I'm just one vote, right? Why should I vote at all then?
2. It is not just about hurting or attacking the company. It's about knowingly giving my money towards a cause that is actively holding the world back as a whole and I strongly disagree with on just about every level. Yeah I'm sure it's just a few cents tops that I am actually giving to that cause by eating there, but it is still my money and I'm not going to willingly donate it to bigotry. It is not necessarily about the outcome as much as it is about the principle.
3. The fact that the food's good does not justify me supporting their cause, just like the fact that R Kelly should not be let off from pissing on an underage girl just because he produces good music (covered pretty well in an episode of the Boondocks). It is a small sacrifice that I make in an attempt to retain my moral congruence.