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  • Farbin Kaiber
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    Lul.

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  • rwh11385
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    Originally posted by FunfGan
    ;)


    Just saying, comparing this to the laws of segregation and marriage of earlier years is such a unrelated shot in the dark. That was a misconception, a vulgar idea that crept into the minds of a nation, and as we see now, there are/ were no issues with interracial marrying. That's obvious. But this? It doesn't work. Forget God, god, gods, mormans, Christians, whatever, and look to nature. It doesn't even make sense there. If everyone had been "born" gay? There would be no people around today. No, before somebody calls me a bigot or anything else, I do not agree with the hating of/ protesting/ name calling and what ever else of gays. That's not how you approach it, and you don't try to cram your ideals down their throats( ).
    How is it unrelated exactly? The vulgar idea that crept into the minds of the nation is that men who love men are somehow less human than the rest since some people's religion said so. (And not even all Christian's, just the crazier ones - mainline protestants are pretty chill and accepting of all people)

    We're going to be 20 years down the line and even hateful ignorant people like you will be able to see there are no issues with same sex marriages either. Why doesn't it work? Because a baby isn't going to be made? What about old people marrying? You're allowed to marry your first cousin in some states after 51... are those not marriages either? No, they are... and the state allows it since the likelihood of offspring are slim.

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  • rwh11385
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    Originally posted by FunfGan
    Fair enough. Didn't mean to sound snappy.

    I totally see eye to eye with you, with the fact that you don't want to defend some one's willful actions, as compared to that of someone who was born with a "unique/ strange/ damaged/ abnormal" brain make up. And see, while I agree with that, I see it in the same light as I would another person with a similar issue in the way the brain is contracted, i.e. a serial killer, sadistic teenager, strongly depressed individual etc etc. In that, while it is something they cannot necessarily help, it is still something that I find morally, naturally and fundamentally wrong. And in the same way that the aforementioned groups of people need help and counseling, so too, I believe do those "born" gay. Again, that is my opinion, and not something I plan to, or want to force onto to somebody. I understand others viewpoints, and their world views. And I totally understand that you or anyone else may find it disgusting that I find gays/ lesbians wrong, especially the right to marriage, but that is simply my opinion.


    Edit: My apologies if something/ many things in that don't make sense, it's 4am here, forgive me hahah.
    So, are you saying that being gay is like being a sadistic serial killer?

    Seriously, I'm disgusted by your complete lack of respect and am more than a little sad for you.



    Whoever talked about schools... Schools teach values like respect and integrity and fairness... It is only those who are brought up without the ability to see past racial, gender, or orientation differences who would miss out on those principles should include GLBT as well. Just like when we used to consider that only white property-owning men were created equal, and then former slaves were 3/5ths of a white man, and then women were also equal... I believe all humans should be treated fairly and experience equality.

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  • Cliche Guevara
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    Originally posted by FunfGan
    And see, while I agree with that, I see it in the same light as I would another person with a similar issue in the way the brain is contracted, i.e. a serial killer, sadistic teenager, strongly depressed individual etc etc. In that, while it is something they cannot necessarily help, it is still something that I find morally, naturally and fundamentally wrong.

    Edit: My apologies if something/ many things in that don't make sense, it's 4am here, forgive me hahah.
    No worries. I'll let you get a good night's sleep and then see if you still stand by this assertion.

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  • FunfGan
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    Originally posted by Cliche Guevara
    I was trying to nail down exactly what you were getting at, it was a bit vague. I like to clarify the arguments of people I disagree with in order to avoid accidental straw men.
    Fair enough. Didn't mean to sound snappy.

    I totally see eye to eye with you, with the fact that you don't want to defend some one's willful actions, as compared to that of someone who was born with a "unique/ strange/ damaged/ abnormal" brain make up. And see, while I agree with that, I see it in the same light as I would another person with a similar issue in the way the brain is contracted, i.e. a serial killer, sadistic teenager, strongly depressed individual etc etc. In that, while it is something they cannot necessarily help, it is still something that I find morally, naturally and fundamentally wrong. And in the same way that the aforementioned groups of people need help and counseling, so too, I believe do those "born" gay. Again, that is my opinion, and not something I plan to, or want to force onto to somebody. I understand others viewpoints, and their world views. And I totally understand that you or anyone else may find it disgusting that I find gays/ lesbians wrong, especially the right to marriage, but that is simply my opinion.


    Edit: My apologies if something/ many things in that don't make sense, it's 4am here, forgive me hahah.

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  • Cliche Guevara
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    Originally posted by FunfGan
    Having met various people who said they willingly changed orientation, yes. Yes I am. Is it always? Not necessarily. I completely believe people can be born attracted to the opposite sex. Just as we disagree on what cars we find cool, or good looking. What does having a choice have anything to do with anything?
    Choice vs nature is everything. I have no interest defending the lifestyle of someone who chooses to act a certain way. Science says that isn't the case with homosexuality, however. The brain stucture of gay men actually resembles that of a straight woman, and visa-versa with lesbians. Surely there are a few people who chose to have sexual relations with the same sex, but this study shows that they do not make up a large portion of the homosexual population and that homosexuality is rooted in the actual makeup of the brain, supporting the thesis that it is not a choice.

    As I said, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to get out of me by asking that question.
    I was trying to nail down exactly what you were getting at, it was a bit vague. I like to clarify the arguments of people I disagree with in order to avoid accidental straw men.

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  • FunfGan
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    Did hooning occur in deserted parking lot after pic was taken?

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  • jaywood
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    Just drove down the the local BK to snap a pic before (and if) they tare the building down. They closed today. RIP



    The oil stain on the bottom left of the picture is from the older Hot Rod guys that went there literally everyday.

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  • FunfGan
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    Originally posted by Cliche Guevara
    "If everyone had been "born" gay? There would be no people around today."
    What is the intent of these sentences? Are you asserting the homosexuality is a choice?
    Having met various people who said they willingly changed orientation, yes. Yes I am. Is it always? Not necessarily. I completely believe people can be born attracted to the opposite sex. Just as we disagree on what cars we find cool, or good looking. What does having a choice have anything to do with anything?

    As I said, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to get out of me by asking that question. I don't believe it's right, but to say that mocking or discriminating against a gay or lesbian person because of what they do is right, is ridiculous. I can and will admit that I am still uncomfortable at certain times around gay people, but I can still interact with them just as I would a "normal" person.

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  • Cliche Guevara
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    Originally posted by F34R
    You're quite funny, but it is clear by how much you defend homosexuality that it is a big part of your life. Whatever floats your boat, I just enjoy a nice pink slide and a firm rack. Enjoy the angry dragons ;)
    You got me, I love the cock.

    Nah, I just can't stand intolerance and ignorance. Very rarely will I refer to a position I disagree with in insulting terms, but in this scenario it's j
    justified.


    "If everyone had been "born" gay? There would be no people around today."
    What is the intent of these sentences? Are you asserting the homosexuality is a choice?

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  • FunfGan
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    Originally posted by jaywood
    I didn't understand that until just now...

    Lol.
    ;)


    Just saying, comparing this to the laws of segregation and marriage of earlier years is such a unrelated shot in the dark. That was a misconception, a vulgar idea that crept into the minds of a nation, and as we see now, there are/ were no issues with interracial marrying. That's obvious. But this? It doesn't work. Forget God, god, gods, mormans, Christians, whatever, and look to nature. It doesn't even make sense there. If everyone had been "born" gay? There would be no people around today. No, before somebody calls me a bigot or anything else, I do not agree with the hating of/ protesting/ name calling and what ever else of gays. That's not how you approach it, and you don't try to cram your ideals down their throats( ).

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  • jaywood
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    Originally posted by FunfGan
    Imma just leave this here again.
    I didn't understand that until just now...

    Lol.

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  • F34R
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    Originally posted by Cliche Guevara
    You think homosexuality is wrong because an invisible man in the sky said so a few thousand years ago. That is not a justifiable reason to discriminate against a significant portion of the population.
    You're quite funny, but it is clear by how much you defend homosexuality that it is a big part of your life. Whatever floats your boat, I just enjoy a nice pink slide and a firm rack. Enjoy the angry dragons ;)

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  • FunfGan
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    Originally posted by Cliche Guevara
    You think homosexuality is wrong because an invisible man in the sky said so a few thousand years ago. That is not a justifiable reason to discriminate against a significant portion of the population.


    Imma just leave this here again.



    Originally posted by FunfGan
    Also, why won't my laptop charge? :(

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