Is the 'Big Pharma Bubble' next?

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  • Farbin Kaiber
    Lil' Puppet
    • Jul 2007
    • 29502

    #1

    Is the 'Big Pharma Bubble' next?

    New changes made to the DSM 5 could lead to people with everyday problems being mislabeled as mentally ill and inappropriately medicated as a result.


    I think the next 10-15 years will be an interesting time in US society, with the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) being found constitutional and moving forward, along with the DSM-5 being approved and pushed through without oversight, we will be entering a society where being prescribed 'something' for every little personality trait, the next generations will be even more accepting of taking a pill instead of being who they are.

    This is a slippery slope that will undoubtedly lead to a majority, if not every citizen on mood/personality/mind altering medications to revise society into a bunch of numb, dumb, and helpless individuals.

    As many people of age to be bringing children into this world that have experienced an entire lifetime in the realm of ADD/ADHD, they will be willingly feeding their children these medications instead of proper parenting, and taking responsibility for raising a productive, intelligent, self thinking individuals.



    OK, now feel free to argue with my point of view.
  • Danny
    Moderator
    • Feb 2008
    • 14216

    #2
    Agreed.

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    • gwb72tii
      No R3VLimiter
      • Nov 2005
      • 3864

      #3
      Thx 1138
      “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
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      • Farbin Kaiber
        Lil' Puppet
        • Jul 2007
        • 29502

        #4

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        • ONRAILSM3
          Noobie
          • Aug 2012
          • 26

          #5
          Medication allows me to tolerate stupid people.

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          • Farbin Kaiber
            Lil' Puppet
            • Jul 2007
            • 29502

            #6
            Not an excuse, being a tolerant, understanding member of society that understands the whole world may not be either as smart nor as stupid as you would work fine, but instead, you've been trained to assume you NEED to be medicated to cope.

            Don't get me wrong, I thought the same thing when I was a citizen in a 'Medicinal' state, then I moved and realized it was not the case at all. Also, growing up a bit helped too.

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            • mrsleeve
              I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
              • Mar 2005
              • 16385

              #7
              Why cant those special snowflakes that "have" some alphabet acronymed developmental disorder to explain why they are special need handling with kid gloves in every aspect of their lives because mommy said nothing was really their fault their entire childhood.


              JUST DRINK LIKE THE REST OF US?????
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              • Dozyproductions
                R3V Elite
                • Jan 2007
                • 4682

                #8
                Interesting article and definitely share the worry that it puts forward. It follows a trend of our extremely micro managed society in which every service we use to 'live' requires the specializations held by others. Who more have we've been traditionally told to put our trust into when being brought up ? Arguably our doctors.

                How much of a hand do you think the big pharma had in writing up these new guidelines? So indirectly, through the doctor/patient relationship, we're actually putting our trust to pharmaceuticals. The same "people" who aren't restricted by moral standards and 'who' are required by law to do anything they can to meet their bottom lines even if going against humanity's best interests.

                It's the age of making the buck by engineering the inferiority complex back into humanity. How can we claim real progress if we're just living in a more convenient version of feudal Europe?

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                • Ryan Stewart
                  I Love Miatas
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 8978

                  #9
                  My only concern is how we are supposed to pay for all of this shit? We arent having more kids. There arent going to be enough people paying into the system to support all of this. Its already coming to pass in Europe with their aging population and low birth rates.

                  Things like Social Security and elder welfare works when you are having a population boom because there will always be enough earners paying into the system but once the pop boom stops the money runs out.
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                  • nrubenstein
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 3148

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ryan Stewart
                    My only concern is how we are supposed to pay for all of this shit? We arent having more kids. There arent going to be enough people paying into the system to support all of this. Its already coming to pass in Europe with their aging population and low birth rates.

                    Things like Social Security and elder welfare works when you are having a population boom because there will always be enough earners paying into the system but once the pop boom stops the money runs out.
                    Immigration. Either we have population growth through immigration, or we turn into Japan.

                    It's pretty much either/or at this point.
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                    • M-technik-3
                      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 18946

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ryan Stewart
                      My only concern is how we are supposed to pay for all of this shit? We arent having more kids. There arent going to be enough people paying into the system to support all of this. Its already coming to pass in Europe with their aging population and low birth rates.

                      Things like Social Security and elder welfare works when you are having a population boom because there will always be enough earners paying into the system but once the pop boom stops the money runs out.
                      Taxation in the form of under our vices. Tax against liquor, beer, weed in some places, sugar tax on candy and soda.

                      Higher gas taxes. Just tax the air you breath.

                      Personally I think all those clowns in the HOUSE and SENATE should have the same health care program if I'm forced to have it as well.
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                      • CorvallisBMW
                        Long Schlong Longhammer
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 13039

                        #12
                        It all stems from 1 thing: Advertising. Watch the national nightly news (ABC, CBS, etc) and +90% are for prescription medications. Restless legs? Take a pill. Dry eyes? Here's some fancy-ass drops. 60 years old and not feeling like you're 18 still? Try some testosterone cream. Just had your prostate removed and can't get a boner at 75 years old? Don't worry, we have a pill for that too. Kid won't pay attention in class? Make him/her take this drug.

                        Americans are being conditioned to believe that anything going on with their minds/bodies that is less than desirable should be treated with drugs. Is it any wonder then that we over-medicate and look to drugs to cure every single ailment we face? It has nothing to do with the ACA, this was all in place looooong before that was even a glimmer in Obama's eye. The bottom line is that the more you advertise something, the more people want it. When you add in to that advertising fear, the fear of being inferior to others, of being sick, of being less than normal, you have the perfect recipe for a sale.

                        I honestly believe the biggest step the US could take to ween us off this drug culture is to simply outlaw the advertising of medicine, the same way we did with tobacco. If you're truly sick, you will seek out the medicine to help you. Nobody needs to be told they may/my not have a condition and should "ask their doctor about X"

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                        • gwb72tii
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 3864

                          #13
                          corvallis, i agree with the advertising ban. plus, it should lower the cost of drugs with no advertising cost to include in your prescript.

                          that being said, biotech is on the edge of incredible advancements related to aging that will not only restore that 60yr old to a much younger age physically, but also limit/stop/reverse mental diseases. we will all live longer, particularly the Y gen, as these meds become commonplace. this will wreck havoc on the funding of social programs as well
                          “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
                          Sir Winston Churchill

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                          • CorvallisBMW
                            Long Schlong Longhammer
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 13039

                            #14
                            ^Exactly. As a society, we are not set up to handle a large number of non-working, care-intensive elderly citizens. If you look at Japan today or China in 30 years, we're on the same path. Not good.

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                            • gwb72tii
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 3864

                              #15
                              the birthrates of countries like japan/russia/italy are one of the reasons the UN forecasted peak world population in something like 30yrs ;)
                              “There is nothing government can give you that it hasn’t taken from you in the first place”
                              Sir Winston Churchill

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