Another thing Sleeve and I probably agree on...

[BraveUlysses]

I'll take unprovable assertion for 500, Alex.


PS you can thank saint reagan for issuing the executive order that established grazing fees http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archive...986/21486b.htm

[mrsleeve]

National news story boradcast laast week is where I saw that

[BraveUlysses]

I will see if I can refind where I found that tomarrow

You can't find what doesn't exist.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-blm-cattle-nevada-rancher-20140412,0,2071818.story

Only one party owes money here and it's the guy who has refused to pay to use public owned land.

[mrsleeve]

I will see if I can refind where I found that tomarrow

[einhander]

I don't know much about the background of the case, other than Bundy's grazing rights based on inheritance were unsubstantiated.

What do the Feds owe him for?

I'm pleased the WMM did help keep his property his, eventually.

[mrsleeve]

You are aware the BLM owes Mr Bundy like 4 million bucks right, in the last court settlement awarded to the bundy family. This has been on going for 17 FUCKING YEARS, this is the court system at work when the feds are in it..... They will just out spend you and bleed you to death in the courts till you cant fight it any more. Also the feds have not and prolly will not pay up the 4m. They will keep spending tax monies on to keep it all tied up in court the 9th circiut till they win its "their court" (quote from a news story quoting the federal attorney ) so they dont have too.....

Yup they (the BLM and the FEDs) have driven out many of his neighbors with the very same tactics. This is fear and intimidation, this is not a good thing at all.

Holy hell. Maybe the Myans were right they just missed the date by about 16 months, this is 3 times in 8 days

[einhander]

This whole fiasco in Nevada with Cliven Bundy.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/14/us-usa-ranchers-nevada-idUSBREA3B03Q20140414

Not that I agree with not paying taxes for his cattle grazing on public land, but stealing the man's livelihood and attempting to deprive him of the means to pay what he owes called for a protest like this.

I'm a little freaked out by the number of "militiamen" running about, but I'm pleased that they were able to get the government to handle this correctly - ie through the courts.