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      What is biased about this study?

      How about this one?

      Or this one?
      PubMed® comprises more than 38 million citations for biomedical literature from MEDLINE, life science journals, and online books. Citations may include links to full text content from PubMed Central and publisher web sites.

      Is this one biased?

      No? Maybe this one then?
      Similar to a survey of Arizona motorists, in our survey, riding with a firearm in the vehicle was a marker for aggressive and dangerous driver behavior.
      Last edited by CorvallisBMW; 10-24-2014, 03:37 PM.

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        you're wasting your time dude

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          I know :)

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            This thread has been a waste of time since the start.

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              Again, you won. Great what do you want? A cookie?

              Explain this mr oregon next to your brother state washington


              Remember, the loonies will always get guns, NO MATTER HOW MANY LAWS ARE PUT INTO PLACE. Hell, Canada with one of the strictest gun laws in the world had a guy run into parliament with a AK47 the other day. What do you expect this thread to do?

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                We don't have the strictest laws (or anywhere near), and it definitely wasn't an AK.

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                  Originally posted by E30NJ View Post
                  Again, you won. Great what do you want? A cookie?

                  Explain this mr oregon next to your brother state washington


                  Remember, the loonies will always get guns, NO MATTER HOW MANY LAWS ARE PUT INTO PLACE. Hell, Canada with one of the strictest gun laws in the world had a guy run into parliament with a AK47 the other day. What do you expect this thread to do?
                  You're 0 for 2, stupid.

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                    Originally posted by cale View Post
                    We don't have the strictest laws (or anywhere near), and it definitely wasn't an AK.
                    whether or not Canada has the strictest laws, he was still prohibited. his merely having a gun was illegal.

                    Investigators say the Winchester .30-30 calibre rifle used by Michael Zehaf-Bibeau in this week's Ottawa shootings on Parliament Hill may be a critical piece of evidence as they try to reconstruct his activities prior to the attack.


                    proving yet again the efficacy of such laws. I594 is the entrance to a rabbit hole.

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                      CorvallisBMW,
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                        had a guy run into parliament with a AK47
                        Correction, he ran into Parliament with a lever action .30-30.
                        On a serious subject, it's important to stick with facts.

                        He (the nutbar) was prohibited from having weapons because a judge said so, but nothing in Canada prohibits rational citizens from having a deer rifle once they pass a course on firearms safety.
                        The police are very,very interested by how nutbar got a rifle and want to know how he got a .30-30 after having been banned.
                        Last edited by SubDad; 10-25-2014, 07:42 PM.

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                          .30-30 lever action is a great gun!

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                            If you don't like guns, don't buy one and don't associate with people who have them. Solved, you can go on your merry way.
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                              Let's actually read what Wikipedia actually says on the matter:

                              The right to keep arms[edit]
                              In regard to the right to keep arms, Title II, Chapter II, Article 15 of the Federal Law of Firearms and Explosives states:

                              (translated) Weapons may be kept in the home for security and legitimate defense of its dwellers. Their possession imposes the duty to manifest them to the Secretariat of National Defense for their registration. For every weapon, record of its registration will be issued.[22]
                              Under this clause, citizens are entitled to keep firearms of the type and calibers permitted by law for their security and defense within their home only. Every weapon must be registered with the federal government. While federal law does not set a limit, in legal practice, citizens are only allowed to keep a total of 10 registered firearms (nine long guns, one handgun) per household.

                              Additionally, a place of business or employment is not covered under this provision unless the place of business is the same as the place of residence (home business) and therefore it is illegal to keep or carry a firearm in a place of business, even if the business is owned by the lawful registered owner of the weapon unless the appropriate license to carry outside the home is issued by SEDENA.[23]

                              The right to bear arms[edit]
                              In regard to the right to bear arms (carry them beyond the home), Title II, Chapter III, Article 24 of the Federal Law of Firearms and Explosives states:

                              (translated) To carry weapons, the appropriate license is required. Members of the Army, Navy and Air Force are exempted from the foregoing, in the cases and conditions stipulated by applicable laws and regulations. Members of federal, state, of the Federal District, and municipal police institutions, as well as private security services, may carry weapons in the cases, conditions, and requirements established by present law and other applicable legal provisions.[24]
                              Under this clause, only citizens who have been granted a license to carry can lawfully carry a firearm outside their homes. Beyond military and law enforcement members, these permits are only issued to persons who qualify such as those employed in private security firms, those who live in rural areas, or those who may be targets of crime (politicians, public officials, wealthy citizens).[25]
                              So citizens are only allowed to keep weapons in their homes for home defense and are not allowed to carry them outside the home without special permits, which are basically not issued to regular citizens... this means that, for purposes of real life, they are disarmed outside the home, similar to the residents of Chicago, New York and Washington, D.C.

                              And, regarding the crime stats, if you sort by the various columns, you'll find El Paso in the top 10 safest cities for every type of crime listed.
                              Last edited by The Dark Side of Will; 10-26-2014, 05:53 PM.

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                                Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View Post
                                What's relevant about that study?

                                Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View Post
                                How about it?

                                Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View Post
                                Or some other one?

                                Biased or not, the last one has about zero relevance to anything.

                                You haven't posted studies... you've posted links to abstracts for which the conclusions agree with your preconceived notions of the world.

                                ONE of these studies addresses defensive gun uses, which are the crux of the "numbers game".

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