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  • ParsedOut
    E30 Fanatic
    • Sep 2005
    • 1437

    #16
    Originally posted by smooth
    ...It's like getting a child to eat Brussels Sprouts.

    ...politely correct you is being a blowhard and looking down on others.
    Right.

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    • smooth
      E30 Mastermind
      • Apr 2005
      • 1940

      #17
      The problem now is that you've demonstrated that you're not a particularly intelligent adult. So if you think I'm looking down on my nose at people in general, that's incorrect, it's just that I've lost any respect for you and a few other people on this forum after seeing how you engage others and topics.

      It may sting you a bit but that's where it's at and it's going to remain for the foreseeable future. I'd rather you not respond to my posts since I'm really only participating in this section of the boards to interact with the people who seem capable of critical thought and also trying to minimize the damage your posts could potential do to some of the young minds around here.
      Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!

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      • ParsedOut
        E30 Fanatic
        • Sep 2005
        • 1437

        #18
        Originally posted by smooth
        The problem now is that you've demonstrated that you're not a particularly intelligent adult. So if you think I'm looking down on my nose at people in general, that's incorrect, it's just that I've lost any respect for you and a few other people on this forum after seeing how you engage others and topics.

        It may sting you a bit but that's where it's at and it's going to remain for the foreseeable future. I'd rather you not respond to my posts since I'm really only participating in this section of the boards to interact with the people who seem capable of critical thought and also trying to minimize the damage your posts could potential do to some of the young minds around here.
        Aaaahhhhh durrrrrrrpppp. Don't worry, I'll keep you busy saving the young impressionable children that browse the r3v p&r subforum.

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        • smooth
          E30 Mastermind
          • Apr 2005
          • 1940

          #19
          Sorry to have offended your leftist ideals, comrade. But not all opinions are equally valid. Take your pinko relativism elsewhere...
          Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!

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          • einhander
            R3VLimited
            • Apr 2004
            • 2024

            #20
            Originally posted by ParsedOut
            You are confusing a rational choice with a conscious one, as convoluted as Dozy's string of definitions may be, most people would consider a rational decision to be made using reason and morality. Maybe the comment I made that spurred this thread should have been "Criminals are rarely morally rational" when talking about taking girlfriends and kids hostage in a standoff situation.
            Feeding yourself is rational. Immoral decisions are labeled as such by moral constructs. They're different. A conscious decision is just something you're personally aware of.

            A conscious decision can be irrational - ie I decided to nail Danny's sister without a condom, but now I have the clap.

            Murder in the heat of passion, however, wouldn't be a conscious decision. It would also be irrational.
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            • ParsedOut
              E30 Fanatic
              • Sep 2005
              • 1437

              #21
              Originally posted by smooth
              Sorry to have offended your leftist ideals, comrade. But not all opinions are equally valid. Take your pinko relativism elsewhere...
              Lol, you got me pegged there fruit smoothie.

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              • ParsedOut
                E30 Fanatic
                • Sep 2005
                • 1437

                #22
                Originally posted by einhander
                Feeding yourself is rational. Immoral decisions are labeled as such by moral constructs. They're different. A conscious decision is just something you're personally aware of.

                A conscious decision can be irrational - ie I decided to nail Danny's sister without a condom, but now I have the clap.

                Murder in the heat of passion, however, wouldn't be a conscious decision. It would also be irrational.
                Good explanation.

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                • cale
                  R3VLimited
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 2331

                  #23
                  Originally posted by einhander
                  Wow. Just wow.

                  I bet this thread seemed like a good idea when you thought of it.

                  Much this.

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                  • einhander
                    R3VLimited
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 2024

                    #24
                    Originally posted by ParsedOut
                    Good explanation.
                    Are you being sarcastic?

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                    • frankenbeemer
                      R3VLimited
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 2260

                      #25
                      Originally posted by smooth
                      It's like getting a child to eat Brussels Sprouts.

                      I willingly ate Brussels sprouts as a child.
                      sigpic
                      Originally posted by JinormusJ
                      Don't buy an e30

                      They're stupid
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                      • frankenbeemer
                        R3VLimited
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 2260

                        #26
                        Originally posted by einhander
                        Feeding yourself is rational. Immoral decisions are labeled as such by moral constructs. They're different. A conscious decision is just something you're personally aware of.

                        A conscious decision can be irrational - ie I decided to nail Danny's sister without a condom, but now I have the clap.

                        Murder in the heat of passion, however, wouldn't be a conscious decision. It would also be irrational.
                        Why was nailing Danny's sister irrational? Is she under the age of consent?
                        sigpic
                        Originally posted by JinormusJ
                        Don't buy an e30

                        They're stupid
                        1989 325is Raged on then sold.
                        1988 325 SETA 2DR Beaten to death, then parted.
                        1988 325 SETA 4DR Parted.
                        1990 325i Cabrio Daily'd, then stored 2 yrs ago.

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                        • smooth
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 1940

                          #27
                          Because he nailed her without protection
                          Das ist nicht nur nicht richtig, es ist nicht einmal falsch!

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                          • frankenbeemer
                            R3VLimited
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 2260

                            #28
                            Originally posted by smooth
                            Because he nailed her without protection
                            That could also be a rational decision. I need more information. And pictures.
                            sigpic
                            Originally posted by JinormusJ
                            Don't buy an e30

                            They're stupid
                            1989 325is Raged on then sold.
                            1988 325 SETA 2DR Beaten to death, then parted.
                            1988 325 SETA 4DR Parted.
                            1990 325i Cabrio Daily'd, then stored 2 yrs ago.

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                            • ParsedOut
                              E30 Fanatic
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 1437

                              #29
                              Originally posted by einhander
                              Are you being sarcastic?

                              This time? Actually no, I appreciated you clarifying.

                              Originally posted by frankenbeemer
                              That could also be a rational decision. I need more information. And pictures.
                              I think the clap had something to do with it. A funny example none the less.

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                              • einhander
                                R3VLimited
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 2024

                                #30
                                Haha - okay.
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