Israeli ground assault on Gaza

[DesertBMW]

I'm on israels side when it comes to this whole middle east conflict. Almost every Arab country wants Jews wiped off the earth. Why should they sit around and let hamas fuck with them. That's the equivalent to mexico trying to lob rockets over at the u.s. only difference is Israel waited patiently after 4000 rockets had been fired at them till they invaded Gaza.

Sense you live in white supremacist Scottsdale AZ and use Mexico as an example, I can answer your question. Mexico does not have to shoot rockets into Arizona because they already invaded us.

[einhander]

Sense you live in white supremacist Scottsdale AZ and use Mexico as an example, I can answer your question. Mexico does not have to shoot rockets into Arizona because they already invaded us.

The cynic would say we invaded them three hundred years ago.

Or anyone with a fair understanding of history.

[mrsleeve]

Santa Anna's crack down on TX, and siege of the Alamo had nothing to do with it, Nor did the US Army ending up in Mexico City, and the millions in canceled or assumed debt had nothing to do with the situation either, nothing more than the big bad USA taking shit that does not belong to them again Hard to invade before the nations birth, and I think the Spanish had already done a good job of invading a couple of hundred years before that. The US gave much of Mexico back after the Mexican American war and outlined compensation for territory kept (treaty of Hidago IIRC) .... Your historical understanding seems a bit off, and some what lacking at this point

[BraveUlysses]

Your historical understanding seems a bit off, and some what lacking at this point

[mrsleeve]

ahhh yes I was wondering when you would show up...... More support for the drivel penned by Zinn I assume???

Edit: thats not a history book FYI, its more political commentary

[einhander]

Hard to invade before the nations birth, and I think the Spanish had already done a good job of invading a couple of hundred years before that. The US gave much of Mexico back after the Mexican American war and outlined compensation for territory kept (treaty of Hidago IIRC) .... Your historical understanding seems a bit off, and some what lacking at this point

No, it isn't off. I was making a point about invading and the absolute nonsensical comparisons that are being made.

Anyway, we occupied Mexico in 1846.

[mrsleeve]

Correct and then we gave most of it back, paid them off or forgave debts to keep the rest, That was what 168 years ago not 300... I was refuting the implied narrative that we stole land from the Mexicans. If I over interpreted your post you have my apologies

[mitch55]

Sense you live in white supremacist Scottsdale AZ and use Mexico as an example, I can answer your question. Mexico does not have to shoot rockets into Arizona because they already invaded us.

Correct I do live in Scottsdale. The city where you never see homeless people because the scpd are busy dropping them off in phoenix.

I used mexico as an example because their govt. has always been pretty corrupt. Hamas isnt really even a government so not the best comparison.

And I don't blame Mexicans for coming over here. The only issue is they need to pay for tax's and pay for all their child births.

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[ParsedOut]

And I don't blame Mexicans for coming over here. The only issue is they need to pay for tax's and pay for all their child births.

RACIST! Just saving einhandler the trouble...

[DesertBMW]

I used mexico as an example because their govt. has always been pretty corrupt. Hamas isnt really even a government so not the best comparison.

And I don't blame Mexicans for coming over here. The only issue is they need to pay for tax's and pay for all their child births.

I live in Phoenix all my life. There about %40 of Mexican-American population in the state, assuming %30 are eligible to vote in state elections, with the current Arizona voter turnout being at %40 and more than half of that are republicans.
This means that Hispanic community in this state have the power to elect every single seat in every position to a Hispanic candidate using simple democratic process, they have the power. Jewish community understands this concept in NY state, lots of jews win elections in NY this is because all jews vote and vote for their own. This tribal way of thinking lacks in Hispanic community. That is why we in Arizona have the most racist anglo white supremacists in the country elected to most powerful seats.

[einhander]

RACIST! Just saving einhandler the trouble...

I was going to write DUMBASS, actually.

Thanks though. Glad I'm in your thoughts.

[ParsedOut]

I was going to write DUMBASS, actually.

Thanks though. Glad I'm in your thoughts.

Only when I see an opening for a flippant remark.

[sam_]

I am in support of Israel when it comes to the conflict. However, Israel could do a better job in killing less women and children. They have the means to do so I feel like they're just being careless and making themselves a bigger target for media bias. It is unfair that anyone (Israeli or Palestinian) should live under fear of rocket attack and is a shame that so many lives have been lost. It's hard to get people in support of Israel considering how a lot of media outlets don't necessarily report facts when it comes to this crisis.

[einhander]

Only when I see an opening for a flippant remark.

Keep practicing.

[sam_]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rabbi-menachem-creditor/im-done-apologizing-for-i_b_5606650.html

for anyone interested