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  • Ether-D
    R3VLimited
    • Sep 2011
    • 2838

    #1

    Equal pay for equal work

    Hey r3v. I may be some kind of bad person for saying this, but it seems to me that if women were getting paid 80% of what dudes get paid, for doing the same amount of work, companies would just be full of women workers. Why pay a man more than a woman? Just to have a dude around? It doesn't make sense from a "bottom line" point of view.

    Tell me why I'm bad and horribly wrong.
    Originally posted by Andy.B
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  • BraveUlysses
    No R3VLimiter
    • Jun 2007
    • 3781

    #2
    I don't think you've really thought this through

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    • jalopi
      Banned
      • Aug 2010
      • 2370

      #3
      LOL, got a good laugh out of this

      Pretty sure this was a big thing during the industrial revolution. Now companies won't do it because they don't wanna "sexually discriminate"

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      • Ether-D
        R3VLimited
        • Sep 2011
        • 2838

        #4
        Originally posted by BraveUlysses
        I don't think you've really thought this through
        Then help me out. What have I missed?

        Are employers just paying men more for fun? If women work for 80% of the money that men work for (and do the same amount of work) then everyone in their right mind would only hire women.

        I just think that sometimes it may not be equal work. If my job was to stack cinder blocks, I'd very likely move 100 blocks to most women's' 80. If I got paid $100 and she got paid $80, would that be wrong?
        Originally posted by Andy.B
        Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
        1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
        ~~~~~~~~~~
        I was born on 3/25…
        ~~~~~~~~~~

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        • jalopi
          Banned
          • Aug 2010
          • 2370

          #5
          The issue (IIRC) is that most bosses are men and tend to take men more serious when they're asking for raises/initial salaries than broads. Sexism is pretty strong in the workforce... hell, everywhere.

          Also, I don't the gap is quite 20%, I think it's more like 13% or so

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          • cale
            R3VLimited
            • Oct 2005
            • 2331

            #6
            The disparity between pay has long since been debunked. Equal pay for equal work does take place, cases where it doesn't occur are often cherry picked and I can just as easily do the same to find fields where females earn more than their male counterparts.

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            • Dirty325ix
              Mod Crazy
              • Sep 2012
              • 689

              #7
              I feel like that its saying that women in general make 80% of what men make as an overall average
              Can't run a business with 100 secretary's

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              • rcsoundn1
                No R3VLimiter
                • Nov 2012
                • 3361

                #8
                In my line of work as a licensed social worker, men can command more because there are so few of us. In my class there were 2 men to every 40 women. It works in a mans favor in that way. Though in other industries I am sure there is an inverse.

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                • Hooffenstein HD
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 1388

                  #9
                  It's a myth. Generally male/female get paid the same. Feminazis cherry pick the numbers and include paternity leave etc to skew the results in their favour.

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                  • slaterd
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 1731

                    #10
                    The "equal work" part is a misnomer. If you actually look at statistics, a higher percentage of men get paid on average more than women because men tend to go into higher paying fields like engineering, upper management, etc. So yes, technically men get paid more, however, it's not because of what feminists tend to beat into young, naive girls' heads of sexism and discrimination.
                    Originally posted by Wh33lhop
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                    • Ether-D
                      R3VLimited
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 2838

                      #11
                      Thanks fellers, this is pretty much what I was getting at.
                      Originally posted by Andy.B
                      Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
                      1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
                      ~~~~~~~~~~
                      I was born on 3/25…
                      ~~~~~~~~~~

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                      • mccor023
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 683

                        #12
                        I have to disagree with several ideas in this thread. As a dude who is married to a very smart hard working lady I can tell you for a fact she is being paid at least 20% less than her male counterparts. To give an idea her co-worker equal credentials equal experience, but he was able to recently pick up a 911 turbo worth as much as out house.
                        I know this is an odd thing to point out, but it is what really opened my eyes to the whole salary thing. We discovered several years ago someone hired 2 years after her was being paid the same her, but I brushed it off. Being the supportive husband that I am and also a guy who wants a Porshe one day I believe confidence is a big issue. Personally when I want a raise i have the confidence to ask for it or find a different job. I encourage my wife to do the same, and maybe she is a rare rare case, but she she is intimidated into thinking all is fair.
                        So where I agree there are 2 side to every story, and each story might have its own twists. When a company sees an opportunity to under pay someone they will.
                        I love that people ask stupid questions so I dont have.

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                        • BraveUlysses
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 3781

                          #13
                          Originally posted by slaterd
                          The "equal work" part is a misnomer. If you actually look at statistics, a higher percentage of men get paid on average more than women because men tend to go into higher paying fields like engineering, upper management, etc. So yes, technically men get paid more, however, it's not because of what feminists tend to beat into young, naive girls' heads of sexism and discrimination.
                          Ok, if you looked at the statistics, post the ones that bolster this argument.

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                          • z31maniac
                            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 17566

                            #14
                            Originally posted by rcsoundn1
                            In my line of work as a licensed social worker, men can command more because there are so few of us. In my class there were 2 men to every 40 women. It works in a mans favor in that way. Though in other industries I am sure there is an inverse.
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                            • TimeMachinE30
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Jun 2014
                              • 3749

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mccor023
                              I have to disagree with several ideas in this thread. As a dude who is married to a very smart hard working lady I can tell you for a fact she is being paid at least 20% less than her male counterparts. To give an idea her co-worker equal credentials equal experience, but he was able to recently pick up a 911 turbo worth as much as out house.
                              I know this is an odd thing to point out, but it is what really opened my eyes to the whole salary thing. We discovered several years ago someone hired 2 years after her was being paid the same her, but I brushed it off. Being the supportive husband that I am and also a guy who wants a Porshe one day I believe confidence is a big issue. Personally when I want a raise i have the confidence to ask for it or find a different job. I encourage my wife to do the same, and maybe she is a rare rare case, but she she is intimidated into thinking all is fair.
                              So where I agree there are 2 side to every story, and each story might have its own twists. When a company sees an opportunity to under pay someone they will.
                              Someone who is in your wife's line of work got a cool car which makes you two jelly and you consider it valued as much as your house.....

                              And from there we get unequal pay and wings to the argument?
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