Petulant Children of UC Berkeley

[mbonder]

I mentioned the Bundy thing because someone was asking for instances of conservative protests turning violent.

I agree that their actions, much like the actions of the UC Berkley crowd shouldn't be used to indict an entire group of people, but that's basically what's happening here.

[Wschnitz]

Some people are too ignorant to see it that way though, they have bought into the 'The Left vs The Right' idea. Blinded by hate for a group they know almost nothing about in reality, but were told by their chosen media that they were bad people, 'Just Nasty'.

[marshallnoise]

Wrong again Schnitz. There is a massive divide between left and right and it takes no effort to see the difference. You don't have to be told what is what. And no one is hating on the left here: just pointing out the difference.

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[Wschnitz]

I mean, almost 90% of your posts are calling out 'The Tolerant Left' when someone doesn't agree with your nonsensical evidence so.

You follow the same path as Milo does, Bait audience into calling you out for being stupid, cry wolf when people call you stupid.

[decay]

Yes, the establishment left is terrified and doing everything to stop their agenda from being destroyed.

yeah, that agenda where we want there to be a safety net?

where it's a better idea to have unemployment, welfare, and social support in general, because it turns out that's actually cheaper than taking care of people once they've already become homeless, or throwing them into the correctional system, because remember how it's all of our tax dollars paying for that?

yeah, we do want to keep that agenda around.

[Wschnitz]

Nah thats Fake News fam, in reality if you tell them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, homeless people magically disappear.

[marshallnoise]

I mean, almost 90% of your posts are calling out 'The Tolerant Left' when someone doesn't agree with your nonsensical evidence so.

You follow the same path as Milo does, Bait audience into calling you out for being stupid, cry wolf when people call you stupid.

Calling me stupid doesn't do anything either to me or for your argument against what I said. Its pointless. The "tolerant left" isn't tolerant; rather they are only tolerant if you are a good black, good gay, good latino, good lesbo, good liberal, etc. Fall outside that, then the left resorts to name calling, like petulant children.

[marshallnoise]

Nah thats Fake News fam, in reality if you tell them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, homeless people magically disappear.

You can research what I have posted about homeless, or continue to be ignorant. Most homeless who are perpetually homeless have mental health issues. I would much rather fund mental health programs if they wouldn't be politicized. Homeless people who are merely down on their luck are rarely homeless for long.

So just like typical libs:

“But what do the socialists do? They cleverly disguise this legal plunder from others -- and even from themselves -- under the seductive names of fraternity, unity, organization, and association. Because we ask so little from the law -- only justice -- the socialists thereby assume that we reject fraternity, unity, organization, and association.”
― Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

And another:

“We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Than the socialists say that we don't want an religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Than they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.”
― Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

[Wschnitz]

You act like calling someone stupid, for being stupid, is a travesty. Then lob anyone who disagrees with your opinion in this mythical group you call 'the tolerant left' that apparently rapes and murders white people and gets cucked into giving blacks, latinos, lgbts, etc their jobs. And that White/Christian America is under attack and will be culled off.

Like What?

Maybe link a non propaganda piece, that supports your argument, and is reputable in the fact that it has sources. Walla, someone actually will respect you for your arguments and have constructive conversation.


But no, you link daily caller, Daily mail, daily garbage #23, buzzfeed, brietbart, whatever, and act like its real. Stop linking Blogs written to stir controversy without providing any actual evidence, and stop acting like all news that is negative about trump, gop, 'insert group here' is fake news.

Stop being blind.

You can research what I have posted about homeless, or continue to be ignorant. Most homeless who are perpetually homeless have mental health issues. I would much rather fund mental health programs if they wouldn't be politicized. Homeless people who are merely down on their luck are rarely homeless for long.

And I'm supposed to believe you without any sourced argument? Then call everyone who dissagrees with you a 'leftist' or 'socialist' again? Im sorry how are they different then you?

I like your source though, Frederic is pretty much the father of Libertarianism in terms of the Economy.

[marshallnoise]

You act like calling someone stupid, for being stupid, is a travesty. Then lob anyone who disagrees with your opinion in this mythical group you call 'the tolerant left' that apparently rapes and murders white people and gets cucked into giving blacks, latinos, lgbts, etc their jobs. And that White/Christian America is under attack and will be culled off.

Like What?

Maybe link a non propaganda piece, that supports your argument, and is reputable in the fact that it has sources. Walla, someone actually will respect you for your arguments and have constructive conversation.


But no, you link daily caller, Daily mail, daily garbage #23, buzzfeed, brietbart, whatever, and act like its real. Stop linking Blogs written to stir controversy without providing any actual evidence, and stop acting like all news that is negative about trump, gop, 'insert group here' is fake news.

Stop being blind.

Who died and made you king? Who died and made you the arbiter of truth, good sources, fact, fiction? You seem to think that bias is only something that conservatives fool around with. Well, if that is what you think, I will always lose in conversations with you.

Just like Republicans and Democrats can be from the establishment and not give a damn about you or me, the media plays you for the same fool. All media has bias. Simply reporting something versus not reporting something shows a bias. Deny this and you are a fool.

Another wonderful Bastiat quote:

“The Seductive Lure of Socialism Here I encounter the most popular fallacy of our times. It is not considered sufficient that the law should be just; it must be philanthropic. Nor is it sufficient that the law should guarantee to every citizen the free and inoffensive use of his faculties for physical, intellectual, and moral self-improvement. Instead, it is demanded that the law should directly extend welfare, education, and morality throughout the nation. This is the seductive lure of socialism. And I repeat again: These two uses of the law are in direct contradiction to each other. We must choose between them. A citizen cannot at the same time be free and not free.”
― Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

[Wschnitz]

I never said I don't have a bias, I think its pretty obvious where my bias lies. I just think its ignorant when you expect us to agree with you when you link blogposts and 'news' that is pretty obviously manufactured for clicks. Its how sites like Daily caller, Brietbart, and most blogs work. They get money from clicks, not from portraying accurate news.

You can't bring an argument to the table, and get mad when people don't believe you when you don't support it.

If you bring an argument to the table, source it, or at least don't make it about shaming a class/group/etc or lobbing someone into a group, you will get respect.

I wasn't being sarcastic about your quotes, I think Frederic writes a lot of good ideas, but I think many of them don't work as well in practice, and are meant more for smaller governments with less diversity and population.

[marshallnoise]

I never said I don't have a bias, I think its pretty obvious where my bias lies. I just think its ignorant when you expect us to agree with you when you link blogposts and 'news' that is pretty obviously manufactured for clicks. Its how sites like Daily caller, Brietbart, and most blogs work. They get money from clicks, not from portraying accurate news.

If you bring an argument to the table, source it, or at least don't make it about shaming a class/group/etc or lobbing someone into a group, you will get respect.

I wasn't being sarcastic about your quotes, I think Frederic writes a lot of good ideas, but I think many of them don't work as well in practice, and are meant more for smaller governments with less diversity and population.

All websites get money from advertising. All print media does too as well as radio. Newspapers were the first to "print what people want." And that wasn't for the benefit of the people; it was for advertising revenue. Its NEVER been about the truth. It has always been about selling papers, getting clicks, or selling airtime.

Bringing an argument to the table, sourcing it, then getting rejected because all the source wants is clicks for revenue is a fruitless, rigged, game. The left vs the right are legitimate points and should not be excluded from the discussion because it makes people feel bad. Feelings are lame.

I am glad you like Bastiat. He was a clairvoyant in his day. His economic policies could only come from his passion for liberty and freedom. They would be pointless and without context if you don't believe in the law protecting the individual and his property above all else.

[Wschnitz]

Of course all websites get money, you need money to survive. But usually a quick read through an article gives you a good idea if its legitimate, or sensationalized.

I don't think Left vs Right arguments are relevant unless talking about politicians really. Debasing individuals to that level, putting them groups on your view, is pretty lame.

[marshallnoise]

Of course all websites get money, you need money to survive. But usually a quick read through an article gives you a good idea if its legitimate, or sensationalized.

I don't think Left vs Right arguments are relevant unless talking about politicians really. Debasing individuals to that level, putting them groups on your view, is pretty lame.

Is it derogatory for you to be considered leftist?

[Wschnitz]

I just think its wrong to throw people into groups. It makes no sense on that same individualist level that Frederic talks about.

I voted for Bernie, because I thought he was honest, and looking out for us as a nation. Not interested in personal goal or grandeur. Obviously the Democratic party didn't, with all their different methods to obstruct his popularity.

I also vote Pro 2nd Amendment whenever an Issue comes up I can vote on in whichever state Im living in, as Im a strong proprietor of an armed and defensible nation. Although I do wish gun stores required a Gun safety class before purchase, too many idiots with firearms today.

Its just improper to label people, we are all individuals. All different.