Let's talk about anarchy!

[marshallnoise]

probably because you're not the one being doxxed.

Explain doxxed please. But people protesting and subsequently getting murdered is incredibly rare.

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[decay]

Statistically, I doubt relevant.

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probably because you're not the one being doxxed.

[marshallnoise]

Statistically, I doubt relevant.

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[decay]

No one is MLK here. That's substance for you.

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pointless statement, ignores the actual safety issue.

[marshallnoise]

No one is MLK here. That's substance for you.

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[decay]

Disagree. If you aren't using violent means, you have no need to hide your face. They hide their face to prevent prosecution for violence.

one's own personal safety is a pretty good reason to hide your face. you can practice non-violence and still be targeted for it.

yanno, like how MLK was assassinated?

[Mediumrarechicken]

Disagree. If you aren't using violent means, you have no need to hide your face. They hide their face to prevent prosecution for violence.

You didn't see MLK or Rosa Parks hiding their identity when it meant they could be lynched. Sorry, it doesn't hold water.



As I mentioned earlier, if you are going to make claims, be able to back them up.

Show me an article from 5 years ago when "anarchists" were preventing parades in Portland, for example, by threatening violence.

So it's some kind of story im making up? I haven't seen it every year like clockwork on all the local news channels? All of them showing people breaking shit and tagging up red A' s. Like I said search up may day Seattle on youtube

[z31maniac]

in defense of masking up:

there are databases of activists who've been doxxed because they went to a protest action and didn't conceal their faces.

Disagree. If you aren't using violent means, you have no need to hide your face. They hide their face to prevent prosecution for violence.

You didn't see MLK or Rosa Parks hiding their identity when it meant they could be lynched. Sorry, it doesn't hold water.

Up here they were calling themselves anarchists years before the term antifa was a thing. Their actions haven't changed, and it's simple, break shit and cause trouble. What fox news hyperbole? I've seen the same shit going on for years

As I mentioned earlier, if you are going to make claims, be able to back them up.

Show me an article from 5 years ago when "anarchists" were preventing parades in Portland, for example, by threatening violence.

[Mediumrarechicken]

The "Antifa" are not anarchists. They are"Anti-Fascist" Fascists. They are also cowards, that's why they cover their faces and act like petulant children.

I didn't start this thread to bait decay, I started to have an honest debate. So be an adult and offer poignant, intelligent positions you can defend with facts. Don't do the Fox News hyperbole BS.

I'm genuinely open to new ideas and solutions.

Up here they were calling themselves anarchists years before the term antifa was a thing. Their actions haven't changed, and it's simple, break shit and cause trouble. What fox news hyperbole? I've seen the same shit going on for years

[decay]

in defense of masking up:

there are databases of activists who've been doxxed because they went to a protest action and didn't conceal their faces.

[z31maniac]

I would run for office in my state. But in OK, regardless of how many people agreed with me, they would never elect me because:

1. I don't have children.
2. I don't attend church.

[z31maniac]

I was rational. The anarchists up here are just a bunch of dumbasses that get together on May day and break windows, light things on fire and scare everyone in downtown Seattle. They just want to cause trouble. YouTube may day Seattle and tell me what you think of these people.

The "Antifa" are not anarchists. They are"Anti-Fascist" Fascists. They are also cowards, that's why they cover their faces and act like petulant children.

I didn't start this thread to bait decay, I started to have an honest debate. So be an adult and offer poignant, intelligent positions you can defend with facts. Don't do the Fox News hyperbole BS.

I'm genuinely open to new ideas and solutions.

[decay]

I was rational. The anarchists up here are just a bunch of dumbasses that get together on May day and break windows, light things on fire and scare everyone in downtown Seattle. They just want to cause trouble. YouTube may day Seattle and tell me what you think of these people.

in much the same way, that idiot Ted Nugent is not representative of libertarianism.

we have the same problems here in oakland.

i don't have a problem with black bloc tactics, where they are called for, but the idiots who assault or property-damage local business owners need a swift kick in the ass, and directions to the nearest BofA/Chase branch.

[Mediumrarechicken]

Way to want to engage in a rational debate.




Excellent, thanks for the insight. I agree a lot with what you're getting at. I grew up "poor," ie, divorced parents in a poor red state and grew up living in a trailer park. But we still had food, a roof, etc. I started work the day I turned 16, etc.




Agreed. I understand but I can't really identify with it anymore like when I was young.


decay, as I said, I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but like I tell some of my ultra-liberal friends:

"Hey, you've got some great ideas and goals, and many people would likely agree with your cause. But when you scream in their face, tell them they are a c--- if they disagree because you can't sell yourself without threats, you discredit your whole movement."

I was rational. The anarchists up here are just a bunch of dumbasses that get together on May day and break windows, light things on fire and scare everyone in downtown Seattle. They just want to cause trouble. YouTube may day Seattle and tell me what you think of these people.

[decay]

decay, as I said, I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but like I tell some of my ultra-liberal friends:

"Hey, you've got some great ideas and goals, and many people would likely agree with your cause. But when you scream in their face, tell them they are a c--- if they disagree because you can't sell yourself without threats, you discredit your whole movement."

i'm trying. but the first four posts you quoted are illustrative as to why it's not always easy to keep my temper in check.