quality studs? vorshlag = :(

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  • nando
    Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 34827

    #16
    remove and install wheels twice a weekend and see how the threads in your hubs like you. ;)
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    • jlevie
      R3V OG
      • Nov 2006
      • 13530

      #17
      Wheel studs are easy. Go to Bimmerworld and get their bullet nose studs. Those are the same part they use on their race cars and they work. Do give the studs a dab of anti-seize every other weekend and replace the studs every other year.

      Red locktite is more than adequate. If that isn't holding, there is insufficient cooling to the front brakes or less than optimal use of the brakes.
      The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
      Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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      • nando
        Moderator
        • Nov 2003
        • 34827

        #18
        or they are too small. mission is murder on brakes. :p

        not sure what I'm doing yet. Will probably call vorshlag when I have a chance. These weren't quite a year old btw. I also don't use an impact to break them free.
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        • Asbradley21
          E30 Mastermind
          • Jun 2008
          • 1938

          #19
          Holy shit. And I JUST installed those exact studs a few weeks ago.

          S54B32 swap in progress. Status: Getting There

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          • nando
            Moderator
            • Nov 2003
            • 34827

            #20
            Originally posted by whiltebeitel
            This. Heat stretches bolts, and when you re-torque them hot, and they cool, the stress on the bolt rises a huge ammount, as if you torqued them like the crank hub bolt. Turner Studs fail under the same circumstances, saw a good friend lose the RF wheel to the trees in a left hander. Tyhe studs sheared because they were way too tight, and the load of the c orner did them in. Luckily, he was safe and only needed to replace the studs and fender.

            If I may be so blunt, I hope you aren't tightening the nut with the impact set to a "torque"
            oh yeah, no I'm not retorquing them hot (although with two of the nuts backed off 1/2", I had to do something). and my impact isn't capable of more than ~60ft/lbs. it's enough to get them snugly on there, and then I have to torque them with my torque wrench.
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            • JRKOUPE
              No R3VLimiter
              • Dec 2004
              • 3159

              #21
              studs

              I use TMS...no issues at all........on a track car.
              I love sitting down and just driving!

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              • Van Westervelt
                R3V OG
                • May 2006
                • 9365

                #22
                I have been using TMS studs for years, zero issues.
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                • jms16v
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 314

                  #23
                  I've been using the TMS bulletnose studs this season without any problems.

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                  • SA E30
                    E30 Fanatic
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 1248

                    #24
                    Why not try H&R Studs? Although they aren't bull nosed. They do have a nifty allen socket in the front for tightening.

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                    • nando
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 34827

                      #25
                      I could.. the H&R headquarters is right here in town!
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                      • JRKOUPE
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 3159

                        #26
                        Originally posted by nando
                        i could.. The h&r headquarters is right here in town!
                        just call tms...or BW...or Vorshlag even

                        nando......

                        you're a smart car guy....

                        every club racer in the world uses studs...and get the brakes hot as well.....this isnt brain surgery.....
                        Last edited by JRKOUPE; 07-08-2009, 09:32 AM.
                        I love sitting down and just driving!

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                        • Massive Lee
                          R3V OG
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 6782

                          #27
                          The new Vorschlag bullet nose with hex holes are made by ARP (same supplier as Turner) and should not bring any problem. I bought a set last month. The older style that was shorter and zinc plated (and cheaper) was a bit akward to work with. I had them too and am replacing them. Never had problems though wit the old style studs.

                          Lee
                          Brake harder. Go faster. No shit.

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                          • nando
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 34827

                            #28
                            Originally posted by JRKOUPE
                            just call tms...or BW...or Vorshlag even

                            nando......

                            you're a smart car guy....

                            every club racer in the world uses studs...and get the brakes hot as well.....this isnt brain surgery.....
                            I know, I'm just busy. My wheel isn't going to fall off with two lugbolts and two studs holding it on, not in a hurry. I'll probably just call vorshlag when I get the chance. Just seeing what other people's experiences were.
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                            • nando
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2003
                              • 34827

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Massive Lee
                              The new Vorschlag bullet nose with hex holes are made by ARP (same supplier as Turner) and should not bring any problem. I bought a set last month. The older style that was shorter and zinc plated (and cheaper) was a bit akward to work with. I had them too and am replacing them. Never had problems though wit the old style studs.

                              Lee
                              good info. those are the ones I wanted in the first place.. they just didn't have any (except the ones requiring a spacer) at the time. my black nuts are probably fine to reuse too.
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                              • JRKOUPE
                                No R3VLimiter
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 3159

                                #30
                                Originally posted by nando
                                good info. those are the ones I wanted in the first place.. they just didn't have any (except the ones requiring a spacer) at the time. my black nuts are probably fine to reuse too.

                                woah...I just re read this...YOUR NUTS ARE BLACK???>....did you have any blunt trauma's?.....rough sex?....

                                please..go see your urologist asap....
                                I love sitting down and just driving!

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