Help me setup my 318 for HPDE

[Stu]

I have decided to run a drivers school or two in the Spring, and want to start getting some help and information from others that track their E30's.

My car is a 318is, has a 3.0L M50. The car has a lot of power and braking is my main concern. I am using a stock 4-lug setup right now, with street pads, ss lines, dot 5 fluid, etc. What pads do you guys recommend I use at the track? SpecE30 runs a Hawk HT-10 (I think), would that work well? What about rear pads? I'm going to replace the rotors with new stock replacements before the DE, flush and bleed.

I'm going to pickup a set of 225/50/15 Yoko AVS's in the near future, and will be running those at the track.

I don't think the suspension on the car has any issues, but I do plan to convert the front swaybar links to M3 style. Currently has: H&R sports, Bilsteins, ST bars, M3 rack, M3 subframe, M3 CAB's, fresh tie-rods, etc.


Any input is appreciated

[ZackAH]

Well guess I'll come out of trolling for this post.

Hey stu, I'm the guy with the Silver E30 from Kormans last year.

As far as brake pads, I'm sure you've already seen this but here it is anyway,

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=150002

I'm sure I don't get up to your kinda speeds with my stock m20, but on the track my stock (pagid) pads seem to do fine. No fade, no fuss, but could do with a little more braking torque.

Since your near me up in charlotte, which track are you planning to do? VIR or CMP? I've done CMP a few times with turnonemotorsports.com . They're cheap and TONS of track
time. The only problem being they're mainly on a friday.

Zack

[Stu]

Hey Zach, I remember you. First car I saw with Kosei's.

I looked into TurnOne a bit, got a lot of info off their site. My first school will probably be with them at CMP. I'd like to do Road Atlanta or Roabling Road, as those are tracks I've ridden on and am familiar with the layout (and have been going to them with dad since i was 3 feet tall).

I've heard CMP has a lot of variety and is killer on the brakes, what do you think?

[ZackAH]

I would deff say CMP would be a good beginner track. It's difficult, as there aren't alot of visual markers for turn in points and such, but on the other hand there's not alot to hit. (unlike
Road Atlanta).

Yes CMP is killer on brakes. I don't have alot to compare it to but I've used the same pagid front pads for 4 DE's there over the past 2 years. 1 last year and 3 this year and I've still got pad left. Not MUCH pad, but around 1/4 ".

CMP is great fun though. Let me know if you decide to do CMP. I'd like to get a ride in your beast. :)

If you can, I recomend Turn1 over the PCA or Mustang club for CMP. The DE's I've done with them have been SO much smaller than the other clubs. (6 to 8 cars in my run group)

[Charlie]

Fix anything that looks iffy on the car, that's the best advice to begin with.

Normally, I'd say no race pads on the first time out, however, with the HP you have, and the fact that CMP gets some serious speed, you might want to go that way. For track pads, I'd probably say Hawk Blues & Ctechs. Otherwise, I'd run Hawk HP+'s up front and HPs's in the rear if you're on a budget, these are also streetable pads.

-Charlie

[UNHCLL]

flush and replace all brake fluid.

pads... pagid oranges? they come in non-M fitment?

check any ego at the door and go out as humble as you can be. this will teach you more than anything.

[Rob]

Carbotech Panther Plus is supposed to be a good dual duty pad, wide temperature range. You could rig up some ghetto style ducting, couldnt hurt.


That and dont get pissed with a stock motored CRX passes you :P

[trent]

Re: Help me setup my 318 for HPDE

I'm going to pickup a set of 225/50/15 Yoko AVS's in the near future, and will be running those at the track.

If you want to be good. Don't use those shit ball, ass licking, seperating, cupping, fast wearing, ball sack hanging, butt face, shit ball tires.

[Jand3rson]

Your 318, Stu? I thought you had a 316d?

[nando]

Re: Help me setup my 318 for HPDE

I'm going to pickup a set of 225/50/15 Yoko AVS's in the near future, and will be running those at the track.

If you want to be good. Don't use those shit ball, ass licking, seperating, cupping, fast wearing, ball sack hanging, butt face, shit ball tires.

wow, somebody else who doesn't worship the ES100 like it's God? crazy...

[///M Powered]

Re: Help me setup my 318 for HPDE

I'm going to pickup a set of 225/50/15 Yoko AVS's in the near future, and will be running those at the track.

Don't use those shit ball, ass licking, seperating, cupping, fast wearing, ball sack hanging, butt face, shit ball tires.

:rofl: :rofl:

[trent]

That and dont get pissed with a stock motored CRX passes you :P

This is the best tip. Check the ego at the gate. I am sure your car is fast, there are way underpowered better handling cars that will be very fast too.

[DBurke]

http://www.r3vlimited.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1296 sigh...

Fresh fluid and decent pads will be fine. I don't care what motor you're running first time out you don't need a full bore race pad like the HT-10. You don't want one either, tougher to be smooth.

Don't avoid certain tracks, drive them all. As long as its there you'll have fun.

The responsibility of the mechanical soundness of the vehicle resides with the driver. It should be prepped and ready to go before it arrives at the track.

[pig4bill]

Overfill your oil by an extra quart. You're going to have a lot of lateral grip.

[colonboy14]

You sure you're using DOT 5 brake fluid? Cause that doesn't belong anywhere near your car. It's silicone, and will allow water to form pockets, and generally not perform well. They use it for show cars cause it's not corrosive.