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  • nando
    Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 34827

    #46
    Use redline. why would anyone reccomend Royal Purple? I guess because it's cheap.

    Originally posted by E30 F34R
    And with colder air it is more condense and will therefore add more o2. I am not 100% on the effects, I just know you put down better times in the morning than in the evening. I could go read up and know 100% on the effects, but I really don't care too much.
    yet you were telling me I don't understand AFRs? ;)

    also, chinese headers and exhaust doesn't sound far from stock to me. Unless you open up the motor, it's still basically stock.

    Originally posted by Ian F
    Yeah... I just love those ES100's... no matter how many times I spin, they don't seem to wear down at all...
    That's because they were manufactured 5 years ago and are hard as rocks by now. :(
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    • u3b3rg33k
      R3VLimited
      • Jan 2010
      • 2452

      #47
      I love my ES100's. Way more traction than what I used to roll on.

      Ich gehöre nicht zur Baader-Meinhof Gruppe

      Originally posted by Top Gear
      Just imagine waking up and remembering you're Mexican.

      Every time you buy a car with DSC/ESC, Jesus kills a baby seal. With a kitten.


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      • nando
        Moderator
        • Nov 2003
        • 34827

        #48
        what, Nankang M&S all seasons? :p
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        • CrazyB
          E30 Addict
          • Feb 2004
          • 420

          #49
          I wish i could find some photos from my sunday runs, As I was slow and sideways for most of it, but I bet the e30 looked really cool coming through the finish line sideways.

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          • F34R
            sLaughter
            • May 2009
            • 12385

            #50
            Originally posted by nando
            Use redline. why would anyone reccomend Royal Purple? I guess because it's cheap.



            yet you were telling me I don't understand AFRs? ;)

            also, chinese headers and exhaust doesn't sound far from stock to me. Unless you open up the motor, it's still basically stock.



            That's because they were manufactured 5 years ago and are hard as rocks by now. :(



            Royle purple is 13 bucks a ltr, I did not think that was too cheap. I'll look into redline and see what that runs. I was going to use that but it was not offered in the local speed shops.

            I understand them, just not enough to argue about them and put all the correct info and facts down. I should have rephrased the CAI from the start. Sorry for not being 100% on all needed parts to make it worth it.

            Since when was MSDS headers chinese? I also have a complete welded exhaust from the headers back to a glass pack, my father has 28 years welding. My Uncle is looking into a exhaust bender, so maybe I can have a slick bent exhaust! (He owns and runs a garage)

            I have not done anything to the m20s internals. Yet it is still not stock, I know this because my brother still cannot beat me with his 325is. In any gear or off the line(eta bottom end baby!)

            So don't assume you know what I have done to my car. I know it is not a monster, but it is making more power than a stock eta. I only buy good shit for her too.
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            • u3b3rg33k
              R3VLimited
              • Jan 2010
              • 2452

              #51
              Originally posted by nando
              what, Nankang M&S all seasons? :p
              Not that bad; radial T/A's - the classic over priced tire.

              But aside from tire noise, what do you have against es100s?

              Ich gehöre nicht zur Baader-Meinhof Gruppe

              Originally posted by Top Gear
              Just imagine waking up and remembering you're Mexican.

              Every time you buy a car with DSC/ESC, Jesus kills a baby seal. With a kitten.


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              • Ian F
                Advanced Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 148

                #52
                Originally posted by u3b3rg33k
                But aside from tire noise, what do you have against es100s?
                I'm sure it was a good tire 5 years ago... but technology has moved on.

                And since one of our other cars has Star Specs, I've had a taste of those improvements.
                '88 325is: Diamond Schwartz; 210K miles; Koni SA; H&R springs; poly bushings (sold)
                '03 TDi Wagon; 5 spd (Ho-hum DD; 326K miles and counting...)
                '64 Morris Mini Cooper (w/e vintage toy #1)
                '72 Triumph GT6 (w/e vintage toy #2)
                '73 Volvo 1800ES (future vintage restomod project)

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                • u3b3rg33k
                  R3VLimited
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 2452

                  #53
                  Well, I kinda like the 23 year old car with 5 year old (tech) tires. they're well suited to having fun.

                  Ich gehöre nicht zur Baader-Meinhof Gruppe

                  Originally posted by Top Gear
                  Just imagine waking up and remembering you're Mexican.

                  Every time you buy a car with DSC/ESC, Jesus kills a baby seal. With a kitten.


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                  • Wh33lhop
                    R3V OG
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 11705

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Ian F
                    I'm sure it was a good tire 5 years ago.
                    Nope.
                    paint sucks

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                    • call me jack
                      E30 Addict
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 425

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Ian F
                      I would tend to agree with this. My car does have the LSD rear, but with the shit tires I have (205/60-14 ES100's), if I try to get on the throttle too early or too hard, I come out of the corner sideways at best, and backwards at worst. Even with a stock M20 with only a cat-back, the margin for error is a bit narrow.

                      The fact the car is loose w/o a LSD is a bit odd to me. The past RWD cars I've had w/o a LSD, the inside rear tire would lose traction and spin, but only if there was limited traction overall (wet road) would the rear end step out.
                      think of it this way;

                      both of the rear tires are gripping as hard as they can, trying not to slip. Power is added, and now your inside tire no longer has grip because it's spinning, so the outside tire starts to lets go as well, since it's under a G load beyond its capacity.

                      This scenario can only happen in the highest G situations (relative to tires grip capacity), and with a particular suspension set up that keeps both rear tires well loaded (which is how the "highest G situation," as stated previously, is possible)

                      with a common stock suspension, that has a lot of roll, the inside tire blows it's load ;) and starts spinning at too low of a g level to the point where the outside tire can still maintain grip, which is why a open diff is often considered more forgiving in street car. (most of the time. remember, it's relative to to tires grip capacity. hence why it's so easy to make any rear drive vehicle drift in snow, regardless of the diff.)
                      Last edited by call me jack; 08-17-2010, 10:14 PM.

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                      • CrazyB
                        E30 Addict
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 420

                        #56
                        So One thing has been Bugging me, is The miller Maf DSp or STX legal, Or will I need to get rid of it?

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                        • nando
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 34827

                          #57
                          Originally posted by u3b3rg33k
                          Not that bad; radial T/A's - the classic over priced tire.

                          But aside from tire noise, what do you have against es100s?
                          uhm, they suck in every possible way imagineable? :p
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                          • nando
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 34827

                            #58
                            Originally posted by CrazyB
                            So One thing has been Bugging me, is The miller Maf DSp or STX legal, Or will I need to get rid of it?
                            I knew somebody with one in DSP, but I don't remember if he was skirting rules or not. Local clubs are pretty lax, I was in SM with car that had a fully gutted interior, when the rules clearly state you can only remove the rear seat and it has to have a full interior otherwise.

                            but read the rulebook to be certain, it's usually pretty clear. If it doesn't say you can do it, you can't.
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                            • Ian F
                              Advanced Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 148

                              #59
                              Originally posted by u3b3rg33k
                              Well, I kinda like the 23 year old car with 5 year old (tech) tires. they're well suited to having fun.
                              I suppose that's a matter of opinion... right now, I have a 23 year old car that seems to be perpetually broken and has no grip. While I could dump buckets of money into the car to improve grip, German engineering means it will still break often. After the M3 and 7 years with MINI's, one would think I would have learned... Nope.
                              '88 325is: Diamond Schwartz; 210K miles; Koni SA; H&R springs; poly bushings (sold)
                              '03 TDi Wagon; 5 spd (Ho-hum DD; 326K miles and counting...)
                              '64 Morris Mini Cooper (w/e vintage toy #1)
                              '72 Triumph GT6 (w/e vintage toy #2)
                              '73 Volvo 1800ES (future vintage restomod project)

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                              • CincinnatiKid
                                Mod Crazy
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 716

                                #60
                                Are you guys so sure it'd bump him to STX, according to the 2010 rules
                                K. Limited Slip Differentials
                                ST, STS – No limited slip differentials are permitted except for factory
                                standard viscous coupler type units.
                                STX, STU, STR – Only standard (as defi ned in Section 12.4) limited
                                slip differentials (LSD) are allowed on AWD vehicles. For AWD
                                vehicles that did not come with any type of limited slip differential
                                (including center differential or transfer case), a single aftermarket
                                LSD may be added. 2WD vehicles may use any LSD unit.
                                so if it comes out of another 318is, and was factory, I think it's still legal in ST.
                                1990 S50 goodness.

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