Alternative to Wilwood BP-20 pads

[dude8383]

Hey guys...I need some advice for a better alternative to BP-20 pads. I spent two bloody hours trying to find the thread with the recommendations but I can't get the right word combination for the search.

I destroyed a full set yesterday at Watkins Glen and would like to avoid that at the next event.

I have Lee's 280x22 kit and I'm getting rid of the stupid fucking slotted rotors because they eat pads for breakfast. Does anyone remember where to pick up corrado blanks that are already made for e30 fitment?

Lastly, could I get a Hawk pad made for the Dynapro calipers? At the track several guys recommended a set of Hawk pads because they are far more capable of taking the abuse.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks.

[Massive Lee]

BP20 pads are great street pads, or good too for "canyon carving". Nonetheless they are not all-out track pads. Yes indeed, slotted rotors will increase pad wear.

I suggest HT10 pads if dust doesn't scare you. But it is a track oriented pad that can be used on the street if dust is fine with you.

If you want all-out grip, I hav only praise for Wilwood's own H compound. But don't even think using it on a daily driver as the pads will score your rotor even though the brake feel will be great.

[gverelli]

BP20 pads are great street pads, or good too for "canyon carving". Nonetheless they are not all-out track pads. Yes indeed, slotted rotors will increase pad wear.

I suggest HT10 pads if dust doesn't scare you. But it is a track oriented pad that can be used on the street if dust is fine with you.

If you want all-out grip, I hav only praise for Wilwood's own H compound. But don't even think using it on a daily driver as the pads will score your rotor even though the brake feel will be great.

Where would people using the Dynalite calipers be able to find the HT10's?

[Massive Lee]

Where would people using the Dynalite calipers be able to find the HT10's?

https://www.rotorsandpads.com

BTW The caliper is a Dynapro

Dynalite is the old generation.

[dude8383]

BP20 pads are great street pads, or good too for "canyon carving". Nonetheless they are not all-out track pads. Yes indeed, slotted rotors will increase pad wear.

I suggest HT10 pads if dust doesn't scare you. But it is a track oriented pad that can be used on the street if dust is fine with you.

If you want all-out grip, I hav only praise for Wilwood's own H compound. But don't even think using it on a daily driver as the pads will score your rotor even though the brake feel will be great.

Great advice. Dust doesn't scare me at all, I actually have those pads in the back now.

Will HT-10's fit dynapro calipers? You wouldn't happen to have the p/n? I'm going to keep the BP-20's for street use and swap out to HT-10's at the track because they squeal too much once they warm up.

[Massive Lee]

The Dynapro uses pad shape #7812(12mm thick)

[rpob5t]

dude3838, you're dennis correct? If so I met you at the glen (I was there with Jeff, your instructor, and had the spare set of dynapro BP-20's) If you want to stick with hawk pads check out the DTC-60, they're relatively rotor friendly (for a race pad), stop amazingly and hold up to abuse well (I was sharing the car with my father this weekend and one set of pads made it through the weekend for both of us).

For purchasing, check out:

http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/

hit up racing caliper pad shapes > wilwood caliper pads > dynapro 7812

that'll get you all the pad compounds they have available. Also if you're SCCA/NASA (I think BMWCCA too, just not sure bc I'm a member of all 3) they give 20% off on hawk compounds, so they're pretty affordable.

-Greg

[JRKOUPE]

pads

Greg......


great link/info.....

Those prices are CHEAPER than HT 10s for the oe e30 frt cali!......kewl.

[dude8383]

dude3838, you're dennis correct? If so I met you at the glen (I was there with Jeff, your instructor, and had the spare set of dynapro BP-20's) If you want to stick with hawk pads check out the DTC-60, they're relatively rotor friendly (for a race pad), stop amazingly and hold up to abuse well (I was sharing the car with my father this weekend and one set of pads made it through the weekend for both of us).

For purchasing, check out:

http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/

hit up racing caliper pad shapes > wilwood caliper pads > dynapro 7812

that'll get you all the pad compounds they have available. Also if you're SCCA/NASA (I think BMWCCA too, just not sure bc I'm a member of all 3) they give 20% off on hawk compounds, so they're pretty affordable.

-Greg

What's up Greg!! You're a friggin life saver haha! Again, thanks a MILLION.

Wow, pricing isn't that bad either:

http://porterfield-brakes.com/product_info.php?productID=13668

Whats the difference between those colors??? I see black, blue, HT-10...are those just comparable products there? Which ones did you purchase?

One of the other guys had a set of DTC-30's, are they less aggressive?

Greg......


great link/info.....

Those prices are CHEAPER than HT 10s for the oe e30 frt cali!......kewl.

Hell yeh!!

[rpob5t]

Dennis,

Not a problem if you'd have know how many times I've been bailed out at the track (heck one of the racers helped me out with a front wheel bearing on sat too), its the least I could do. I know the black's and blues are the oldest of the hawk compounds out there, the HT-series (10's and 14's) came next; and the DTC series are the most recent technology. The 30's are from what I understand more of a circle track compound with the 60's and 70's being the more aggressive road race so it would probably be safe to assume the higher the number the more aggressive the pad (just don't quote me on that).

as for price that's the beauty of going to a "standard" pad shape. Just about everyone makes a compound and they're almost always cheaper than the factory shape (just an economy of scale thing)

[dude8383]

The Dynapro uses pad shape #7812(12mm thick)

Thanks Lee!!

Dennis,

Not a problem if you'd have know how many times I've been bailed out at the track (heck one of the racers helped me out with a front wheel bearing on sat too), its the least I could do. I know the black's and blues are the oldest of the hawk compounds out there, the HT-series (10's and 14's) came next; and the DTC series are the most recent technology. The 30's are from what I understand more of a circle track compound with the 60's and 70's being the more aggressive road race so it would probably be safe to assume the higher the number the more aggressive the pad (just don't quote me on that).

as for price that's the beauty of going to a "standard" pad shape. Just about everyone makes a compound and they're almost always cheaper than the factory shape (just an economy of scale thing)

I bet dude. I've already learned that twice this season. The last HPDE I didn't bring ANY tools but a torque wrench... You meet some really great folks at the track!! I'm glad that so many people with E30's (especially you haha) were at the event otherwise I would have to pack it up on Saturday!

Thanks for the insight on the pads, based on that I'd probably go for the 10's or the 60's...Going to buy 2 sets this time!!

[e304me]

yeah i used the BP20 on the track and destroyed them as well, the PF's I got after are amazing though

[F34R]

Too bad I forgot to get the pads for you when I came up and the line bleeder!

[Massive Lee]

as for price that's the beauty of going to a "standard" pad shape. Just about everyone makes a compound and they're almost always cheaper than the factory shape (just an economy of scale thing)

You bet. That was my first observation when going to a caliper such as the Superlite or Dynapro. Actually Superlite pads are about twice the volume as a Dynapro pad for barely 20% more money.

[SkinnyVT]

www.rotorsandpads.com

BTW The caliper is a Dynapro

Dynalite is the old generation.

Personally I use Raceshopper.com for pretty much all my brake pads, call them up and tell them what caliper you are using and they will be able to tell you all the hawk and performance friction compounds that are available and odds are they will have the best price. Best part is that they are in Syracuse so you will get your pads the next day. Only thing is that they don't carry wilwood brand pads, which on Lee's recommendation I am using the H-compound and love them on the track.