Alternative to Wilwood BP-20 pads

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  • gverelli
    Mod Crazy
    • Dec 2008
    • 772

    #31
    I was looking on wilwoods site at the temperature curves and torque values, what about the J compound? it looks pretty good and WAY better than bp-20 curves.

    Actually, I dont think the J compound is available for this caliper..


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    • gverelli
      Mod Crazy
      • Dec 2008
      • 772

      #32
      Lee, what Wilwood compound would be equivalent to the HT10's? For example having HT10's in the rear and H compounds in the front?


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      • JRKOUPE
        No R3VLimiter
        • Dec 2004
        • 3159

        #33
        Originally posted by gverelli
        Lee, what Wilwood compound would be equivalent to the HT10's? For example having HT10's in the rear and H compounds in the front?
        r u running an m20?....if you are, you are overthinking the rears IMO. Use HT 10 up frt....and any hi po rears....HP plus...Mintex (1144) I think..... carbo tech...etc.....
        I love sitting down and just driving!

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        • gverelli
          Mod Crazy
          • Dec 2008
          • 772

          #34
          Originally posted by JRKOUPE
          r u running an m20?....if you are, you are overthinking the rears IMO. Use HT 10 up frt....and any hi po rears....HP plus...Mintex (1144) I think..... carbo tech...etc.....

          Ya I have an m20. My current pads are BP-20's up front, and Hps rear. I am looking for a setup with much more bite. Pretty much in the same situation as the OP. I would like to stay with Wilwood pads for the front kit..


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          • SkinnyVT
            Grease Monkey
            • Nov 2008
            • 391

            #35
            I run the H compound in the front and HP+'s in the rear, the balance of the car was very neutral under braking. This is with all the tar out of the trunk so the car had a 3.5% front weight bias.
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            • kishg
              R3VLimited
              • Sep 2006
              • 2624

              #36
              stock m20, go ht-10s all around or better pfc06 all around. if you want to dial in a little bit more rear bias, use pfc01 rear with pfc06 fronts.
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              • gverelli
                Mod Crazy
                • Dec 2008
                • 772

                #37
                Originally posted by kishg
                stock m20, go ht-10s all around or better pfc06 all around. if you want to dial in a little bit more rear bias, use pfc01 rear with pfc06 fronts.

                Are your refering to having all stock size brakes? Or, with the Massive street kit?


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                • JRKOUPE
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 3159

                  #38
                  Originally posted by kishg
                  stock m20, go ht-10s all around or better pfc06 all around. if you want to dial in a little bit more rear bias, use pfc01 rear with pfc06 fronts.
                  w/ more rear bias, car will rotate a bit easier?.....

                  did you notice that?...

                  stock m20?....hehehe...sure.
                  I love sitting down and just driving!

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                  • gverelli
                    Mod Crazy
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 772

                    #39
                    Originally posted by SkinnyVT
                    I run the H compound in the front and HP+'s in the rear, the balance of the car was very neutral under braking. This is with all the tar out of the trunk so the car had a 3.5% front weight bias.

                    I was thinking of putting the H comps up front and the HT10's in the rear, I just want to know if this will be okay for track use. Ill be honest, right now it feels as if the rear are doing nothing. Both are rebuilt functioning 100% with HPS on them.


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                    • kishg
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                      • Sep 2006
                      • 2624

                      #40
                      Originally posted by gverelli
                      Are your refering to having all stock size brakes? Or, with the Massive street kit?
                      should have clarified, i meant with stock brakes, stock m20.
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                      • kishg
                        R3VLimited
                        • Sep 2006
                        • 2624

                        #41
                        Originally posted by JRKOUPE
                        w/ more rear bias, car will rotate a bit easier?.....

                        did you notice that?...

                        stock m20?....hehehe...sure.
                        yes it does rotate easier. not sure it makes a huge difference in an HPDE. hey, you accusing me of cheatin mister? :)
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                        • Massive Lee
                          R3V OG
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 6782

                          #42
                          A car that is more stiffly suspended will experience less weight transfer. Therefore as a general rule, it can take more rear bias than a stock car. The weight of the engine will have incidence on the pressure the front wheel will apply on the asphalt, and will affect the required bias for optimal braking. Also, tight tracks will require more rear bias to allow the back end to help steering. Fast tracks with long sweepers require less rear brake.
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                          • JRKOUPE
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 3159

                            #43
                            Originally posted by kishg
                            yes it does rotate easier. not sure it makes a huge difference in an HPDE. hey, you accusing me of cheatin mister? :)
                            I dont know.......are you saying HPDEs is not racing?.........lol
                            I love sitting down and just driving!

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                            • kishg
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                              • Sep 2006
                              • 2624

                              #44
                              Originally posted by JRKOUPE
                              I dont know.......are you saying HPDEs is not racing?.........lol
                              naw, that's practice :)
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                              '91 SpecE30 #523
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                              • gverelli
                                Mod Crazy
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 772

                                #45
                                Also, I would still keep my bp-20s for street driving, but will the rotors be okay to be swapping back and forth H compounds then bp-20s before and after track days?


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