any one ever see a fast audi?

[kishg]

i was hoping some one might like that.

that's pretty hilarious..

[call me jack]

hahahahah

i was hoping some one might like that.

[Kershaw]

hahahahah

[rennis]

My daily is a B5 S4. They are not great AutoX cars. As everyone has said, too prone to understeer. They're much better Track Day cars, where long straights and a variety of corners make them much more competitive. Consecutive tight corners will kill a B5.

B5s are the lightest of the Audis since 2000, so theoretically they should be the best in most racing situations. There are aftermarket center diffs that change the front/real bias of power, and there is unlimited aftermarket suspension mods...With the right amount of money, you can build a B5 S4 that will kill many cars on any track...but that's far from the majority of the cases out there.

As others have said, watch out if he's upgraded the car to K04s or bigger (TIALs are the big thing now) because 400+whp is made with ease.

That said, if he's running a tiptronic, he's screwed. Even if he has chipped the car you'll smoke him with a decent E30.

[call me jack]

I wouldn't say i'm a highly experienced driver, nor, do i fully or completely understand the characteristics of my cars, seeing as i just got it, last june and haven't driven it too hard, yet. But i like to think i have an advantage over many non-road racers, in that i fully understand the concept behind traction management; balancing traction between braking and turning, and turning and accelerating (is there a name for that concept?). I also understand proper apexing, and overall driving line, in addition, i also have no problem with heal toe braking...

Not that this is justifying, but i was ranked top 1000 in forza 2 S class (i think i still might be), and i like to believe that there is experience to be gained from, in terms of understanding driving dynamics.... I'm guessing this is more experience than he has...

[Wh33lhop]

Here's a B5 S4 likely on a stock long block

[QUKBMER]

The first vid has a e30 in-car. Both vids have fast audi's. http://www.streetfire.net/video/swed...008_171247.htm

http://www.streetfire.net/video/valhalla-cup-part-2-2006_201074.htm

[kishg]

The fat torque curve and source of said torque curve are what have always been the chink in Audi's armor, yeah (so I've read)? I guess some very aggressive suspension geometry and sticky-as-hell rubber make up for that? How were the front tires when you were done?

the rs4 is/was a different beast, i've driven one and it handled very well indeed. yeah it was heavy but no more so than the e92 m3 i don't think. check out the topgear episode where clarkson drives one.

[Jalves619]

Ugh. Please don't want the car just because some retard was driving its wheels off. Whenever I see someone in a nice car driving like an asshole it makes me want the car less.

I guess I should have clarified. The guy was driving like a Douchebag which is not what I was condoning nor drawing inspiration from. I was just surprised at how capable that car is.

[team9]

We have a couple seriously mod'd audi A4/S4's that come out to autox. They definitely aren't set up as autox cars (ie, all engine, very little suspension). But as with any car, given the right driver who know's what he's doing, they can be pretty quick. What mods do you have done to your e30 and how long have you been autox'ing?

[Wh33lhop]

+1 I was cruising around in the e30 this morning and an RS4 rockets past me weaving in and out of traffic, driving like he stole it. It looked like it had an aftermarket exhaust, and had the sound to match. I want one.

Ugh. Please don't want the car just because some retard was driving its wheels off. Whenever I see someone in a nice car driving like an asshole it makes me want the car less.

[Jalves619]

Nice fat torque curve. Four wheel drive. Good suspension design. And a bit of CAD (Computer Assisted Driving)... ;-)

The car was very well balanced too. If I had some mullah, I would get a used RS4 in a snap.

+1 I was cruising around in the e30 this morning and an RS4 rockets past me weaving in and out of traffic, driving like he stole it. It looked like it had an aftermarket exhaust, and had the sound to match. I want one.

[Massive Lee]

The RS4 didn't feel at all as an understeering car. More like a rear wheel drive car, with extra help from the front wheels to pull you out of a corner. Just steer, and apply throttle toward the exit. The feel was phenomenal. I think the trend started with the first generation Audi TT. I could even let my novice student trailbrake at the entry and throttle his way out.

[gearheadE30]

For what it's worth, newer audis have different awd tuning with much more rear bias as well as, if I remember right, an active rear diff that apparently helps quite a bit with getting rid of that understeer. Obviously, the b5 won't have that, and consequently won't be nearly as well balanced.

[markseven]

Nice fat torque curve. Four wheel drive. Good suspension design. And a bit of CAD (Computer Assisted Driving)... ;-)

The car was very well balanced too. If I had some mullah, I would get a used RS4 in a snap.

The fat torque curve and source of said torque curve are what have always been the chink in Audi's armor, yeah (so I've read)? I guess some very aggressive suspension geometry and sticky-as-hell rubber make up for that? How were the front tires when you were done?