School me on Miata's

[spud814]

The steering input is so awesome on the 93 i drove i almost hit a parked car on my first right turn. Just wasn't expecting it.

[stamar]

i had a friend with a auto v6 and I think its still around town somewhere.

as cool as it looks on paper I think everyone who owns one says its terrible and upgrades to the 2.5 in the mx6

[Nsquared97]

Yeah they are definitely rare. I had a buddy in high school with a 5spd V6, I was lucky enough to drive it before he totaled it.

[stamar]

ya definitely possible but who cares.

Whenever I shopped a mx3 with a v6 it was always an auto.

extremely rare car. Couldnt come up with the build specs for you.

wasnt always available with v6 wasnt always available as a v6 manual Im pretty sure. I meant to say wasnt available to me ever.

[Nsquared97]

back when I had a mazda protege a hundred years ago motor switch nerds talked about switching in the 1.8 k from the m3. Here in the us the 1.8 mx3 only came in auto to it was a exotic legendary motor.

Ummm no. The V6 MX-3 was definitely sold with a 5spd too.

[nokincy]

The 1.8l is stronger, more powerful, and IMO worth the cost difference due to the beefed up driveline all the way back. The 1.8l cars have a much larger power ceiling than the 1.6l cars (on stock components.)

The non-power steering cars have a slower steering ratio than the PS cars, if you are going to track the car I'd suggest de-powering a PS cars steering rack.

1.6 cars with a LSD have a VLSD (viscous LSD) which by now are all open diffs in need of a rebuild/replacement. 1.8 cars have the Torsen type differential which does not normally fail - ever.

2001 and up 1.8l cars have VVT and higher compression therefore they can make more power. I believe '99 engines also have the higher compression head but without the VVT.

Stock brake system is plenty good for a new to the track driver; just refresh everything and get some good pads (Porterfield R4S are a good street/track pad, not too crazy but still excellent bite, and fade resistance for a dual purpose pad)

The 5-speed box is orgasmic in all the cars with short precise throws etc etc. The 6-speed box from later NB cars can be swapped in with some work and it is very similar to the s2000 unit. Both the NB 6-speed and the s2000 unit are made by Aisin.

As far as engine swaps go, they are all out of your price range however I would love to put a KLZE in my Miata, the cheapest swaps are putting later BP 1.8l engines in early NA generation cars (something to consider later on if you get a 1.6). Flyin' Miata sells a get to swap the 1.8 into a 1.6 car.

[stamar]

thats cool. In that case they used a lincoln v6 with an rx7 transmission. Im not going to r3v argue with anything that first one is a one off concept.

Its nice though. And the build explanation showed the parts work between the two cars so it could be a production car.

the 2nd one I didnt think of because its from a fwd car. but it works. probably a lot like that. that engine is pretty cool.

back when I had a mazda protege a hundred years ago motor switch nerds talked about switching in the 1.8 k from the m3. Here in the us the 1.8 mx3 only came in auto to it was a exotic legendary motor.



Thanks for the links. I still dont think its common but I see its more common than I thought.

[Nsquared97]

^A NA with that V6 would be pretty fun imo. Always thought that engine was pretty cool.

[bernzpeed]

we've serviced a few when we had our shop downtown in the city. getting prepped for track. here's another one:

http://www.miata.net/motm/2007/snell.html

[Danny]

Oh so what you mean is there is A v6 miata.

Also, the gf wants one. I'm stoked for that.

[bernzpeed]

V6 Miata

http://www.miata.net/news/v6.html

[stamar]

people swap in the rotary sometimes.

people have swapped in sr20d. a v6 would be ... another make with the transmission and computer, and a machined driveline to connect it to your differential. basically.... harder than all the e30 swaps people list.

not store bought. And which v6? vq from a 350z? sounds nice but ive never heard of one.

[Wh33lhop]

I haven't seen a single v6 swapped into a miata. LSx and 302s however...

[stamar]

Never read that anywhere, the use the same rods and with turbos are good to 240-250ish reliable HP.



What V6s? From what I've read/looked at most either go FI with the 4 pot or swap in an LS variant.

Same amount of work to get most V6s in as the V8s, so most don't go that route.

I agree with your contradictions. The BP 1.8 is a much more durable motor and I have never even seen a miata v6 although some exist Im sure. ls1 all the time.
there arent really good mazda v6s rwd in any cars. what youre looking for is actually the rx7 rotary thats what mazda uses.

the miata 1.6 is unique but its basically like a sentra motor. They have the same "how many miles" threads on miata forums and theres no long lasting 1.6s but many 1.8s with 500k.

[z31maniac]

the 1.6L is more durable than the 1,8.

Never read that anywhere, the use the same rods and with turbos are good to 240-250ish reliable HP.

V6 swaps are pretty common on miatas.

What V6s? From what I've read/looked at most either go FI with the 4 pot or swap in an LS variant.

Same amount of work to get most V6s in as the V8s, so most don't go that route.