Getting into AutoX

[nando]

L8 apexr is right to a certain extent.

I remember starting out and being really slow. You certainly want to avoid picking up bad habits. I'd suggest going out on a a ride or two with GOOD autocrossers if you can. That will get you used to the amount of lateral grip you should be approaching, how tight you can get to the cones, and the flow of the course.

Don't be reckless, but be aggressive.

sure but as a noob it's more about learning than competition. You're not going to be the fastest guy there your first autox. better to take it slow and do the course correctly rather than going fast and getting hit with multiple penalties. also you'll look like an idiot if you're sliding around everywhere screeching tires but can't do the course correctly to begin with.

[FredK]

L8 apexr is right to a certain extent.

I remember starting out and being really slow. You certainly want to avoid picking up bad habits. I'd suggest going out on a a ride or two with GOOD autocrossers if you can. That will get you used to the amount of lateral grip you should be approaching, how tight you can get to the cones, and the flow of the course.

Don't be reckless, but be aggressive.

[Lof8]

maybe when you're experienced, but this is horrible advice for a newbie, who are more likely to simply get lost on course than have any clue as to where they were losing time and needed to back it down.

Seriously, a first-timer's concerns should be a car that will pass tech and having some fun, nothing more.

[nando]

Most of this "talent":roll: is from many years of practice,point is don't frig around-go balls deep right from the 1st run that way you know where to back it down to pull it all together in the later runs instead of finally adding the speed only to muck it up and cone your FTD away.

maybe when you're experienced, but this is horrible advice for a newbie, who are more likely to simply get lost on course than have any clue as to where they were losing time and needed to back it down.

[matthugie]

Most of this "talent":roll: is from many years of practice,point is don't frig around-go balls deep right from the 1st run that way you know where to back it down to pull it all together in the later runs instead of finally adding the speed only to muck it up and cone your FTD away.

That statement is all kinds backwards. Build up speed. You first have to learn the lines...slowly. Pro drivers, even those in Formula 1; their fastest lap is their last. Do learn the limits, but you aren't going to do it "going balls deep 1rst run." Not at all.

NEVER take L8 Apexer's bolded advice at an HPDE, especially a track with walls.

I see both sides to this, and for autox will agree with L8 apexr to an extent. We have had some autox's locally where we only have gotten 3-4 runs, so you don't really have time to work up to speed. You have to figure it out quickly, which means pushing hard early and figuring out where you're losing time and making adjustments from there. If your first two runs are trying to sort out lines and increase pace you might only get one or two runs at speed, and as he said, if you cone it then you're pretty much done.

Conversely, I will agree wholeheartedly with R3Z3N about HPDE's and other track outings. Completely different mind set where you should take your time and build up to speed.

[R3Z3N]

Most of this "talent":roll: is from many years of practice,point is don't frig around-go balls deep right from the 1st run that way you know where to back it down to pull it all together in the later runs instead of finally adding the speed only to muck it up and cone your FTD away.

That statement is all kinds backwards. Build up speed. You first have to learn the lines...slowly. Pro drivers, even those in Formula 1; their fastest lap is their last. Do learn the limits, but you aren't going to do it "going balls deep 1rst run." Not at all.

NEVER take L8 Apexer's bolded advice at an HPDE, especially a track with walls.

[L8 apexr]

Wow your right I forgot I'm gifted,others can't read between the lines.

[Wschnitz]

So your saying drive recklessly to learn....

[L8 apexr]

Ok BRO no one cares if you are natural born talent.

Most of this "talent":roll: is from many years of practice,point is don't frig around-go balls deep right from the 1st run that way you know where to back it down to pull it all together in the later runs instead of finally adding the speed only to muck it up and cone your FTD away.

[Wschnitz]

Ok BRO no one cares if you are natural born talent.

[L8 apexr]

AutoX is for anyone wanting to learn car control. We don't stop learning.

I agree completely,my point is there's lots of quick guys out there but some take forever to get used to a car or a course.Autox requires being able to be on pace from the 1st run,can't take all day to sneak up up to it.
I co-drove a stock 1st gen miata on streets last year,1st time in one ever and won the class and beat the owner by 5 seconds mostly because I don't need multiple runs to figure the quirks out.;)

[rwh11385]

Not mine but close:


And this is awesome:

This is in my sold coupe, but I run the same setup in my sedan.

[Wschnitz]

I can probably fab something with pieces in my garage.

[rwh11385]

I just uploaded a pic a few posts up. Flat stock, threaded rod, and some nuts washers and a drill and your set.

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Yeah, that post was helpful and was similar to mine. I also added a 90 degree bend screwed into the tray to keep it from sliding front/back and had a flat stock under the tray, or something.

More posts:

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=71060&highlight=battery+tray&page=2

steel bar with holes in it under the battery tray, coupled with a generic battery tie down kit with rubber type top piece and long "J" bolts from autozone.

[FLG]

I just uploaded a pic a few posts up. Flat stock, threaded rod, and some nuts washers and a drill and your set.

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