Anyone here actually using 949Racing 6ULs?

[liquidgroove]

There are couple 15x9 with 15mm offset wheels around.

Ameican Eagle has sub brand called MSR which makes some 15's in 15x8 and 15x9. Suppose 2pcs welded wheel and made in USA.

http://www.amazon.com/MSR-piece-wheels-4x100-silver/dp/B009UMS2CW/ref=pd_sim_sbs_auto_1

wheel style won't clear any BBK for sure.

[z31maniac]

Concave and lips are on the verge of being as lame as hellaflush. They serve no useful purpose on a track car.

Take a look at Ferrari, Porsche, BMW M-series, Mercedes Benz AMGs, Audi R8, GTR, etc. etc. None of them have any of that lame crap on their front wheels... Why? because they have massive 4-6-8 pot brake calipers. Function first, form later.

As for spacers - it doesn't matter what quality studs you use. The simple use of spacers increases wear and tear on your wheel-bearings/hubs. This doesn't matter for a street car, but for a track car, you'll kill them much much faster if you're on a ridiculous 15-20mm spacer.

YOu must have mistaken the purpose of this thread.

I suggest you find an extra large bag of dicks on which to eat.

There are couple 15x9 with 15mm offset wheels around.

Ameican Eagle has sub brand called MSR which makes some 15's in 15x8 and 15x9. Suppose 2pcs welded wheel and made in USA.

http://www.amazon.com/MSR-piece-wheels-4x100-silver/dp/B009UMS2CW/ref=pd_sim_sbs_auto_1

wheel style won't clear any BBK for sure.

Yeah 16lb track wheels!

[Farbin Kaiber]

I used to go pick up wheels at Eagle/MSR and Allesio back in the beginning of the last decade. I would not buy those wheels to put on my neighbors grandmas DD.

[Bullwings]

YOu must have mistaken the purpose of this thread.

I suggest you find an extra large bag of dicks on which to eat.



Yeah 16lb track wheels!

Agree with other stuff posted.

Also want functional affordable wheels that clear BBKs - don't care about concave and lips.

It's the same problem I'm having with my other car. I can't find affordable 17x10s in the correct offsets that will clear my BBK. I don't feel like spending $3K+ on one set of wheels. I'd rather have 2 sets of wheels for that price.

Main point was that I was agreeing with the OP about people tracking versus hardparking.

I'll find the XL bag, but only if you promise to share it with me... ;D

[Farbin Kaiber]

I'd rather have one set of great quality $3000 wheels as opposed to two sets of meh level $1500 wheels.

[z31maniac]

I'd rather have one set of great quality $3000 wheels as opposed to two sets of meh level $1500 wheels.

There are plenty of quality, track worthy wheels that don't cost $400+ each.

[klodkrawler05]

I'd be extremely interested! an e30 fitment lightweight track 15x9 4x100 would be very useful especially if the talk about a 245 width sticky summer tire comes to fruition. (those interested in this wheel discussion may be interested in the tire discussion thread over here: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=302717 )

however a few thoughts that might help the wheels sell better.
- et35 will interfere with the front strut of an e30, why not at least bump this back to a et30 or there abouts? that gives you 5 less mm of needed spacer which would make studs more viable (since it seems reccomended to stay 15mm or below for track use spacers unless you go to bolt on style)

- Since the wheel is in the design phase right now it would be very easy to design the mounting pad of the wheel for both 4 and 5 lug vehicles, this not only opens up the fitment market for 5 lug swapped e30's but there are e36 guys that would love to try out the 245 wide 15" tire as discussed over on BF.C and this would open up the market to them as well.
(BF.C link for reference) http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...Make-It-Happen

- Lastly, there are several 15x8 options already on the market for e30's. There are 0 options in 15x10 15x10.5 for those who want to run hoosiers 275/35/15 a6 (and in classes that would allow a wider wheel it's likely the 245 hankook RS3 would also work better on a 15x10) Similar to how Emilio has the market cornered for miata/mr2's that want to run 275's without spending $2k+ on a set of wheels Jongbloed could corner the market for BMW's by offering 4x100 and 5x120 15x10's.

You mentioned that if 15 people would buy an et15 15x9 set Jongbloed would be interested, well if he can adapt the 15x9 wheel and make a 15x10 near/below 14lbs for near the same price as the 15x9's i'd buy all 15 sets just to see them come to fruition. (or at least buy however many sets weren't spoken for during the pre-buy, I'd like as many people as possible to get them on their cars but I'd pick up the remaining sets to see it come to be)

[matthugie]

I'd definitely be interested in a light 15x9 that can clear a BBK with minimal spacer use.

[z31maniac]

however a few thoughts that might help the wheels sell better.
- et35 will interfere with the front strut of an e30, why not at least bump this back to a et30 or there abouts? that gives you 5 less mm of needed spacer which would make studs more viable (since it seems reccomended to stay 15mm or below for track use spacers unless you go to bolt on style)

I'm doing this for Miata guys since the 6ULs are never in stock, read the original post where I mention that 6ULs are never in stock.

- Since the wheel is in the design phase right now it would be very easy to design the mounting pad of the wheel for both 4 and 5 lug vehicles, this not only opens up the fitment market for 5 lug swapped e30's but there are e36 guys that would love to try out the 245 wide 15" tire as discussed over on BF.C and this would open up the market to them as well.
(BF.C link for reference) http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...Make-It-Happen

I've never heard of E36 guys wanting a 15" wheel, and I'm not going to bother researching that market.

- Lastly, there are several 15x8 options already on the market for e30's. There are 0 options in 15x10 15x10.5 for those who want to run hoosiers 275/35/15 a6 (and in classes that would allow a wider wheel it's likely the 245 hankook RS3 would also work better on a 15x10) Similar to how Emilio has the market cornered for miata/mr2's that want to run 275's without spending $2k+ on a set of wheels Jongbloed could corner the market for BMW's by offering 4x100 and 5x120 15x10's.

Yes there are 15x8 options, but none with the quality of JongBloed especially at the price point these will be sold at.

You mentioned that if 15 people would buy an et15 15x9 set Jongbloed would be interested, well if he can adapt the 15x9 wheel and make a 15x10 near/below 14lbs for near the same price as the 15x9's i'd buy all 15 sets just to see them come to fruition. (or at least buy however many sets weren't spoken for during the pre-buy, I'd like as many people as possible to get them on their cars but I'd pick up the remaining sets to see it come to be)

Please re-read the thread, I said if 15 would commit to buy I could check with Ryan and see if they would be interested. Never did I say for certain they would be. BTW Commit means pay a deposit, not just say "yeah I'm in"

Guys, I implore you to use your reading and critical thinking skills.

[JRKOUPE]

Z31

just pmd you......would like to chat asap.....

[klodkrawler05]

Guys, I implore you to use your reading and critical thinking skills.

Before insulting others it may be worth checking to make sure you've clearly stated the things you are accusing others of not knowing.

Never once did you mention that you intended these to be for a Miata. Your signature puts you as the chief sales officer for a company who specializes in BMW parts, and you posted on an e30 specific forum, I do apologize for assuming that you would be talking about an e30 when posting in such a place
Just because you mention another common miata wheel means we are supposed to jump directly to the understanding that you don't give a damn about the e30 folks with this wheel design and if that is true what was your reasoning for asking on this forum anyways?

Just because you are ignorant to a certain product market doesn't mean it doesn't exist. STX has been the biggest class at the solo nationals for the past couple years, even bigger than spec-miata (I mean STS) with BMW's being the most common car in the class even over the FRS/BRZ twins. that to me says that if their is a market specifically for an STS legal 7.5 6UL there is a market for a STX legal 15x9 5x120, especially with e36 328i's wishing for smaller tire diameters to lower their overall gearing.

Lastly how did you judge I was unwilling or uncapable to put forth the deposit for all 15 sets of wheels? please point me to the group buy thread with final pricing and weights with contact information about how to pay, then see if the money comes forward rather than making brash assumptions about things. at $209 per wheel we're talking just over $12,500 for the shipment not an overly huge amount of money especially in SCCA land where people spend more than that on blueprinting a 23 year old ES Miata. By commit I knew exactly what you meant, as a business owner I'd go broke pretty quick throwing down deposits for every great sounding idea without actual proof, show me photos of the prototype wheel, give me exact dimensions/weights etc and then ask me for a deposit. If you need a deposit before doing the work I'm not interested.

I apologize for my excitement at an e30 specific 15x9, thats something I've been looking for and it seemed that someone else was finally looking to do the same thing.
Instead it turns out we have another Emillio complex on our hands, "Miata is god everyone else can piss off......or maybe get lucky and somehow be able to adapt the wheel to their car, who cares its not a miata it must
suck."

I would implore you to put on your business cap, use some critical thinking skills and try to wrap your mind around the fact that alienating potential customers is not a good way to gain business.

[z31maniac]

"Miata is god everyone else can piss off......or maybe get lucky and somehow be able to adapt the wheel to their car, who cares its not a miata it must suck."

That's because Miata guys actually buy track parts.

I'm sorry if that pisses you off.

The fact that I don't care about the E36 market is moot. I'm specifically working with Jongbloed so there will be a quality, lightweight 15x9 wheel available YEAR ROUND. Versus the twice a year sales Emilio does.

[klodkrawler05]

That's because Miata guys actually buy track parts.

I'm sorry if that pisses you off.

Not in the least, I have a Miata in addition to the e30. I'm familiar with the Miata forums and how many more of those guys are into tracking vs the e30 guys, that doesn't mean there are no track e30's out there.

although I do have to admit you're the first person I've seen who considers Jongbloed to be an option for year round wheels.

[JRKOUPE]

To all intrstd in an e30 specific wheel.......


With Z31's consent!, I will pursue a 15 x 8 wheel for e 30's.......57.1/4 x 100.
Ill start another thread.....

thanx Buddy!

[z31maniac]

Not in the least, I have a Miata in addition to the e30. I'm familiar with the Miata forums and how many more of those guys are into tracking vs the e30 guys, that doesn't mean there are no track e30's out there.

although I do have to admit you're the first person I've seen who considers Jongbloed to be an option for year round wheels.

Again, I'd beg you to read the entire thread. Wheels that are AVAILABLE year round, vs being sold 2x per year (like the 6ULs).

My Miata is a barely street legal track rat. Which likely sometime time next year will go full on NASA TT and I'll quit insuring/tagging it.

Again, I'm working with them on this wheel so that people can call up Jongbloed or Phil's Tire Service and order them any day of the year. Unlike the 6ULs that typically have a spring and fall run.