Cosmo coil over for the track???

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  • Elliot
    Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 83

    #1

    Cosmo coil over for the track???

    I have acces to set of cosmo coilovers and was wondering if anyone had tried them on the track. My car is not a built race track but I got to track days and Solo 1 events 8-10 times a year.

    Elliot
  • backtrail69
    R3V Elite
    • Jul 2005
    • 4471

    #2
    They are alright for street, but IMHO the spring rates aren't very good for e30 IMHO. I would want to go to like 650 or 750 in the rear.

    Cosmo Coilovers----------------450-------------------------560
    :: PNW Crew ::
    '87 325 4dr, '74 2002

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    • Elliot
      Member
      • Feb 2006
      • 83

      #3
      The HR race are 380 and 570 !!!!! I already have a set of suspension techniques swar bars so the hge spring rate in the back is not needed.

      I have the hr sports and the rateas are 180 and 370. My current setup is too soft.

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      • rwh11385
        lance_entities
        • Oct 2003
        • 18403

        #4
        Originally posted by Elliot
        The HR race are 380 and 570 !!!!! I already have a set of suspension techniques swar bars so the hge spring rate in the back is not needed.

        I have the hr sports and the rateas are 180 and 370. My current setup is too soft.
        ...

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        • Elliot
          Member
          • Feb 2006
          • 83

          #5
          ???

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          • rwh11385
            lance_entities
            • Oct 2003
            • 18403

            #6
            H&R springs are progressive... Coilover springs like Eibach Race Springs are linear (have same rate throughout). The first inch of compression for a H&R sport is much softer than the last inch of compression (180/370).

            H&R race do not have a "HGE" spring rate in the back, it's softer than the 560-of cosmos. Good rates for track E30s in LINEAR springs are gonna be around 400-450/600-700

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            • rThor432
              No R3VLimiter
              • Feb 2007
              • 3907

              #7
              Originally posted by Elliot
              ???

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              • Elliot
                Member
                • Feb 2006
                • 83

                #8
                I was reffering to 750 in the back that backtrail69 posted. I understand the progressive nature of the HR sport and HR race. I just want to know if someone had used the cosmo in the track. Lance, form your post I assume the cosmo front rate is fine and the rear is a little under your suggestion.

                I am really more concerned with the front rate I am running (180) since I can feel the nose dip under braking.

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                • Dave
                  E30 RAT
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 11675

                  #9
                  Why not give thm a shot. If you are unhappy, you can always pick up a pair of different rate ERS used off of one of the forums.
                  Current Cars
                  2014 M235i
                  2009 R56 Cooper S
                  1998 M3
                  1997 M3

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                  • nando
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 34827

                    #10
                    the main problem is the quality of the components isn't good.. a good set of perches/adjusters/springs isn't all that expensive, don't waste your money on junk if you can avoid it.
                    Build thread

                    Bimmerlabs

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                    • Dave
                      E30 RAT
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 11675

                      #11
                      Chris,

                      Do you have first hand knowledge that these perches, etc are junk?

                      Just wondering.

                      If they are, then by all means, the OP ought to look elsewhere. There are options beyond GC, that is for sure.
                      Last edited by Dave; 12-22-2007, 03:46 PM.
                      Current Cars
                      2014 M235i
                      2009 R56 Cooper S
                      1998 M3
                      1997 M3

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                      • rwh11385
                        lance_entities
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 18403

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Elliot
                        I was reffering to 750 in the back that backtrail69 posted. I understand the progressive nature of the HR sport and HR race. I just want to know if someone had used the cosmo in the track. Lance, form your post I assume the cosmo front rate is fine and the rear is a little under your suggestion.

                        I am really more concerned with the front rate I am running (180) since I can feel the nose dip under braking.
                        IMO, rear bars suck and you are in better shape with ~650 in the back instead of moderate rates with a big bar...

                        sometimes this cannot be avoided (spece30) but if you are going down the road of C/O's, go barless in back IMHO. but then again, dozens of people are tracking with H&R races and ST bars, so you'll find answers on how to make that setup work as well

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                        • Elliot
                          Member
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 83

                          #13
                          I 've read lot about the bad quality of the components but nobody had really presented facts. A lot of the feedback is from people who think their junk and not from people who bought it and were dissapointed.

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                          • Elliot
                            Member
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 83

                            #14
                            so should I keep the bar with them or just dump it and get 650 for the rear?

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                            • rwh11385
                              lance_entities
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 18403

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Elliot
                              so the should I keep the bar with them or just dump it and get 650 for the rear?
                              it's really not hard to change them around. buy a spare pair of 650s and have the tools ready. you can do cosmo as is, then without bar, then with 650s and then try it with bar, and just swap inbetween sessions.

                              i've had 300/475 GC's and even without a rear bar with those rates had a pretty good setup.

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