understeer how do I minimize it?

[rwh11385]

The advantages aren't just the ability to corner weight the car. The biggest advantage is in CHOOSING what spring rate you want, AND the ability to change those spring rates easily. And if you look in the right places inexpensively

+1.

Fiddle go play your fiddle.

[rwh11385]

DSP74 already brought up the front swaybar issue here:

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=108766

for those who didn't pay attention or are n00bs

[z31maniac]

if you think 450/550 are too stiff you probably don't want coilovers :p

(I know that was just an example)

Haha, yeah. I need to get my wheels off and check what my rates are. I think I remember the guy who sold me the car saying 375/475.

Which is not bad at all on the street, I think, although I don't think I'd want to go too much stiffer with a car on low profile tires on 17s with the crappy ass roads we have here.

[Borat]

pretty sure you're a naive twit...

for BMWs, a big front bar HELPs to REDUCE understeer

settle down chief, we have already covered that earlier in the thread with the reasons why. I really dont see the need for you to bring it up again only with added insults, but whatever makes you happy

[Hallen]

No, it has nothing to do with loading the spring or changing the height - it has everything to do with widely available and inexpensive custom 2.5" springs. Don't like your rates? spend $60 on another set of springs and swap them out. you could even have them for different setups if you like - track/autox, street, etc.

Ah, that makes sense then. Thanks!
I guess it was the way he worded it originally that confused me.

Bigger front sways=less understeer, got it. (on these cars... without modified suspensions... and only up to a point...:o)

[driver08]

As a very basic step (used to be common practice) you can try is to replace your rear sway bar with a stock E30 M3 bar. It is margianlly thicker and should not require any reinforcemnent that are sometimes recommended with beefier bars. I did this way back and I did think it made a noticable improvement for little effort or money. However, as others have said, tire pressures and slow in/fast out can have quite an effect. Nothing will cure the understeer quite like camber plates (front of course). -George.