Which Class

[MatRacer]

I'm pretty new to the world of track.

I lapped twice last years, did a Solo1 and a solo2 with my Jetta 92.

I just bought this car:

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=131234

the car is
87 325es
M3 engine and tranny
M5 clutch
solid rear subframe
welded rear strut bar and
etc

For Solo1 and solo2, In which class I should be ?

I started to read the auto X rules, but I'm not really sure of were I should be since there is a welded bar in the trunk...

Thanks!

[jmr302]

Solo2 is now just 'Solo'. Solo1 is now 'Time Attack'.

I would say the car is pretty close to Street Mod in Solo. Not sure about the welded bar in the trunk. Does it connect the shock towers? I think that by itself could move the car to X-Prepared. But in either case the car will be very unprepared for the class as it is today.

[MatRacer]

Yes, the bar connect to the shock tower...

[MatRacer]

When you have a swap, the lowest you can run is Street mod?

[z31maniac]

^Yup.

[Asbradley21]

Hope you're good or are willing to get your ass kicked up and down the street until you are because you're stuck in SM for sure.

[Massive Lee]

Solo2 is now just 'Solo'. Solo1 is now 'Time Attack'.

So untrue.

Solo2 is autocross.

Solo1 is Solosprint. A discipline recognized by FIA.

Time Attack is just another trendy Japanese repackaging for rice boys who watch too much TV and don't want to get a real license to compete.

[APhelps89]

Hope you're good or are willing to get your ass kicked up and down the street until you are because you're stuck in SM for sure.

I've got to disagree I run my 87 325is in street mod and usualy run in the top three. E30's are really competitive in SM if you really learn how to run your car and yours can compete especially with the set-up your running

[MatRacer]

-->APhelps89

Nice to hear!! Anyway I will lurn with time. Also, I should take lesson next year... New car, first house kind of delay racing project;)

-->Massive Lee

Yeah, I race in Quebec, I though it had another name in US...

for the solosprint, the rules are on the FIA web site? On the FSAQ web site the is the 2008 rules... not the 2009...

Thanks!

[BraveUlysses]

So untrue.

Solo2 is autocross.

Solo1 is Solosprint. A discipline recognized by FIA.

Time Attack is just another trendy Japanese repackaging for rice boys who watch too much TV and don't want to get a real license to compete.

Depends on if you're going by SCCA rules/nomenclature or CASC rules/nomenclature.

solosprint as defined by CASC:

SoloSprint is an entry level, low cost, grassroots motorsport organization in Ontario.

SoloSprint offers a car enthusiast the chance to take his/her car and driving skills to the limit in a safe and controlled environment among experienced racers and organizers.

The competition style is that of a single car time attack where it is only you against the clock, and the times of your competitors. You do not have to worry about other cars trying to pass you, or cut you in corners, it is a great way to safely get into motorsports.

[jmr302]

So untrue.

Solo2 is autocross.

Solo1 is Solosprint. A discipline recognized by FIA.

Time Attack is just another trendy Japanese repackaging for rice boys who watch too much TV and don't want to get a real license to compete.

I guess I was using the SCCA US term when I said Solo and the trendy Japanese term for what the SCCA now calls 'Club Trials' or 'Track Trials' which used to be Solo1. Looks like NASA calls that just 'Time Trials'.

But either way in Solo2/Autocross/Solo it's an SM car because of the swap and will be under-prepared as it sits today. I think an E30 could be plenty competitive in that class Divisionally in the US but maybe not on a National level. But does that really matter?

[MatRacer]

I will be there to have fun. I will mainly compete in Quebec. So not being competitive on national event is not a big issue for now.

What about the welded bar in the trunk (that link the subframe and the shock towers)?

[MatRacer]

as the solo rules:

16.1 D 1 --> "Engine block must be a production unit manufactured and badged the same as the original standard or optional engine for that model."

So a 24v engine in an E30 is not legal for SM. The lowest you can run is XP...

[z31maniac]

You're reading the rule wrong.

Basically it means you have to put a BMW engine into a BMW chassis, a Chevy engine into a Chevy chassis, etc.

You can't stuff a SR20DET into an E30 an be SM legal, you will be in XP.

The entire rule entry:

"Engine block must be a production unit manufactured and
badged the same as the original standard or optional engine
for that model. Badges that exist as marketing aliases for the
manufacturer will be recognized as equivalents. Swaps
involving makes related only at a corporate level are not
recognized as equivalents. Models produced as a joint
venture between manufacturers may utilize any engine from
any partner in the joint venture, provided that an engine from
the desired manufacturer was a factory option in that
particular model (e.g. Eagle Talon available originally with
either a Mitsubishi or Chrysler engine, may use any motor
from Chrysler or Mitsubishi). This allows engine blocks
manufactured as production units for sale in other countries
such as Japan or Germany."

[MatRacer]

Would the M3 offset front control arm bushing be illegal? And what about roll center adjuster? Probably not...

16.1 H --> "Subframe bushings may be replaced with bushings of any material as long as they fit the original location. Offset bushings may
not be used."