Anyone have Trial by Declaration experience?

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  • accident
    R3V OG
    • Sep 2008
    • 7303

    #1

    Anyone have Trial by Declaration experience?

    I got pulled over tonight for Exhibition of Speed, the officer let me go with a ticket for Basic Speed Law, putting my speed down as 65 mph in a 50 mph zone. He didn't fill in the LIDAR box, and from the way he spoke he estimated my speed visually. The street was dry, the weather was completely clear, and there was only one other car on the road. How should I go about writing my TBD Statement of Facts?

    Originally posted by ROLLingKING
    i have a bronzit and plan on making it look sweet.
    Originally posted by slammin.e28
    Moral of this story?

    If you drive your e30 on stairs, you're gonna have a bad time.
  • ak-
    R3V OG
    • May 2009
    • 12422

    #2
    $3

    1991 325iS turbo

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    • dvck
      No R3VLimiter
      • Nov 2009
      • 3394

      #3
      offer them a brake duct.
      sigpic

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      • accident
        R3V OG
        • Sep 2008
        • 7303

        #4
        hahaha.

        i fucking hate you guys.

        Originally posted by ROLLingKING
        i have a bronzit and plan on making it look sweet.
        Originally posted by slammin.e28
        Moral of this story?

        If you drive your e30 on stairs, you're gonna have a bad time.

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        • dvck
          No R3VLimiter
          • Nov 2009
          • 3394

          #5
          <3

          good luck with it, haven't had any experience with this, so i stick with brake duct.
          oh and im happy to see the old avatar back
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          • reelizmpro
            R3V OG
            • Dec 2003
            • 9446

            #6
            I typically go for trial by declaration to save time. I give a lot of details, circumstances, and diagrams/pictures. Just like writing reports for school. Worst case scenario is they keep your money and you get points on your record. At least you don't have to take a day off to go to court.
            "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

            85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
            88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
            89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
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            • IRON-E
              I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
              • Dec 2007
              • 16548

              #7
              How about some old shitty shox worth $180.00 to you but really worth nothing with a BMW stamp on them?
              @IRON-E30 aka Edwin:D

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              • E30Nova
                E30 Mastermind
                • May 2009
                • 1546

                #8
                The fuck is trial by declaration?

                Matt
                Matt

                Originally posted by slammin.e28guy
                I pack my CD player with asbestos. Those mother fuckers pay dearly for stealing my shit.
                Originally posted by kronus
                try whacking parts of the motor with a wrench while yelling "YOU WANT SUMMA DIS? HUH?"
                Originally posted by chadthestampede
                This is like a reverse build thread; it starts out nice and gets shitty.

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                • e30polak
                  R3V OG
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 6136

                  #9
                  Don't write anything that the cop can turn against you. Both times I've won by just writing not guilty. Cops get paid to go to court during their shift, they don't get paid to do paperwork.

                  The likelihood of a cop not showing now days is slim to none, but a lot of times they wont bother with the paper work.

                  Greg - extend the ticket online a few days before the stated court date. Then make sure to turn in the TBD sheet right before the renewed court appearance. By that time it's been over 4 months, the cop will not recall the details of the ticket like you will. Worst case scenario you take it to court.
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                  • Cabriolet
                    R3V OG
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 9620

                    #10
                    Originally posted by e30polak
                    Don't write anything that the cop can turn against you. Both times I've won by just writing not guilty. Cops get paid to go to court during their shift, they don't get paid to do paperwork.

                    The likelihood of a cop not showing now days is slim to none, but a lot of times they wont bother with the paper work.

                    Greg - extend the ticket online a few days before the stated court date. Then make sure to turn in the TBD sheet right before the renewed court appearance. By that time it's been over 4 months, the cop will not recall the details of the ticket like you will. Worst case scenario you take it to court.
                    what he said. i got a public defender for mine bc i got a misdemeanor, the defender was a joke. just plead not guilty. and follow e30polak's instructions.
                    Much wow
                    I hate 4 doors

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                    • ak-
                      R3V OG
                      • May 2009
                      • 12422

                      #11
                      Originally posted by E30Nova
                      The fuck is trial by declaration?

                      Matt
                      Instead of going to court, you write a letter/paper/essay defending yourself to the judge. The officer against you has to write a letter in defense to your letter to the judge. Then the judge decides who wins.
                      The beauty of this is:
                      1. Officers usually forget if you extend it.
                      2. They don't get paid to do paperwork as opposed to going to court like polak said.
                      3. They are lazy to write it. (I'm pretty sure I would. I could care less.)
                      4. In the event he responds, and you lose, you can re-appeal the case by going to court.

                      1991 325iS turbo

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                      • E30Nova
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • May 2009
                        • 1546

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ak-
                        Instead of going to court, you write a letter/paper/essay defending yourself to the judge. The officer against you has to write a letter in defense to your letter to the judge. Then the judge decides who wins.
                        The beauty of this is:
                        1. Officers usually forget if you extend it.
                        2. They don't get paid to do paperwork as opposed to going to court like polak said.
                        3. They are lazy to write it. (I'm pretty sure I would. I could care less.)
                        4. In the event he responds, and you lose, you can re-appeal the case by going to court.
                        Ah, I like it.

                        Also, shy guy avatar ftw!

                        Matt
                        Matt

                        Originally posted by slammin.e28guy
                        I pack my CD player with asbestos. Those mother fuckers pay dearly for stealing my shit.
                        Originally posted by kronus
                        try whacking parts of the motor with a wrench while yelling "YOU WANT SUMMA DIS? HUH?"
                        Originally posted by chadthestampede
                        This is like a reverse build thread; it starts out nice and gets shitty.

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                        • ak-
                          R3V OG
                          • May 2009
                          • 12422

                          #13
                          8)

                          1991 325iS turbo

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                          • elemenohpee
                            Wrencher
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 236

                            #14
                            Originally posted by e30polak
                            Don't write anything that the cop can turn against you. Both times I've won by just writing not guilty. Cops get paid to go to court during their shift, they don't get paid to do paperwork.

                            The likelihood of a cop not showing now days is slim to none, but a lot of times they wont bother with the paper work.

                            Greg - extend the ticket online a few days before the stated court date. Then make sure to turn in the TBD sheet right before the renewed court appearance. By that time it's been over 4 months, the cop will not recall the details of the ticket like you will. Worst case scenario you take it to court.
                            +1

                            I beat my last ticket with trial by written declaration. The trick is to write as little as possible as to not self incriminate yourself and to get the longest extension you can so the cop can't remember enough to write a good statement.

                            Worse comes to worst, you can always get a second chance to fight it in court.

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                            • ak-
                              R3V OG
                              • May 2009
                              • 12422

                              #15
                              Originally posted by elemenohpee
                              +1

                              I beat my last ticket with trial by written declaration. The trick is to write as little as possible as to not self incriminate yourself and to get the longest extension you can so the cop can't remember enough to write a good statement.

                              Worse comes to worst, you can always get a second chance to fight it in court.
                              And the more you write, the more the cop will remember.
                              Be firm and straightforward.

                              1991 325iS turbo

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