Californians! Questions on smog checks...

[e30trooper]

"AS IS" means absolutely nothing, just because you state that still means the car still must get a smog inspection. Just because you state that you're selling the car as is doesn't mean you can get break the law that the DMV states.

if i state that i sold the car AS IS , its the new owners responsibility to show smog.

Upon initial registration, nonresident, diesel powered vehicles manufactured in 1998 or after with a (GVWR) rating of no more than 14,000 lbs, and specially constructed vehicles 1976 and newer require smog certification

every time I've sold a car I never smogged it. Every time I've bought a car, ive had to smog it myself. I don't see anything wrong there.

anyway it dosnt matter. You cant register a car with out smog certification.

[reelizmpro]

Yeah I'm not sure if that contract is binding because it goes against the law but most private parties will just honor it. Like I said, I've never seen it escalate into litigation. What if a guy turns it into a track only car or parts it out? What if the engine is blown? or it's a shell? surely, there's no need to smog these cars.

[Vefu]

if i state that i sold the car AS IS , its the new owners responsibility to show smog.

Upon initial registration, nonresident, diesel powered vehicles manufactured in 1998 or after with a (GVWR) rating of no more than 14,000 lbs, and specially constructed vehicles 1976 and newer require smog certification

every time I've sold a car I never smogged it. Every time I've bought a car, ive had to smog it myself. I don't see anything wrong there.

anyway it dosnt matter. You cant register a car with out smog certification.

So if you bought a car that the previous owner didn't smog, then afterwards you went to get the car smogged and it didn't pass and required you to put extra money into fixing the car then you wouldn't consider that the PO's fault?

Because I went through that with my E30, the car didn't pass and needed a new cat in order to pass.

[e30trooper]

So if you bought a car that the previous owner didn't smog, then afterwards you went to get the car smogged and it didn't pass and required you to put extra money into fixing the car then you wouldn't consider that the PO's fault?

Because I went through that with my E30, the car didn't pass and needed a new cat in order to pass.

well yeah id fix it. its not like im spending alot of money on the car. i could under stand if it was a new car. but we are talking about 20+ year old bmws.
Like berry said, lets says you wanna buy this car but the engine is blown. Are you going to cry about the owner not smogging it when you know you bought the car as is?

[Vefu]

Like berry said, lets says you wanna buy this car but the engine is blown. Are you going to cry about the owner not smogging it when you know you bought the car as is?

No, because I wouldn't buy a car with a blown engine :)

[MR 325]

When a car is sold, who is responsible for the inspection?

The seller is required to provide the buyer with a valid smog inspection certification at the time of the sale or transfer. Smog certifications are good for 90 days from the date of issuance.

The inspection is not required on a transfer if a biennial smog certification was submitted to DMV within 90 days prior to the vehicle transfer date (a vehicle inspection report may be required for proof of certification).

NOTE: Smog certifications are not required for transfers that occur for a gasoline powered motor vehicle that is four or less model years old. (Determine the oldest-qualifying year model by subtracting three from the current year) the four or less model years old rule does not apply to diesel powered vehicles. A smog transfer fee will be collected from the new owner.

Thanks for proving me right.

[e30trooper]

Thanks for proving me right.

so like i stated above, Every car you have sold , you smogged. And every car you have bought has been smogged b4 it was in you hands?

[MR 325]

so like i stated above, Every car you have sold , you smogged. And every car you have bought has been smogged b4 it was in you hands?

Now I did not say that. (Although I have smogged most of the cars I have sold). You were stating that the LAW says it does not need to be done and that was incorrect.

[tonywonder]

isnt it possible to register the car as PNO and then sell the car that way?

[e30trooper]

Now I did not say that. (Although I have smogged most of the cars I have sold). You were stating that the LAW says it does not need to be done and that was incorrect.

Ok, i might have stated it wasnt the law, but its not anyone going to do anything about.

[accident]

lol internet lawyers

[MR 325]

isnt it possible to register the car as PNO and then sell the car that way?

I think they made PNO a little more tricky. I haven't actually done it but I think a smog may still be in order to qualify. It's a weird system.

[accident]

as far as i know, and i haven't read up on it in a while so don't quote me on this, the only thing required to PNO a car is to pay the fee

[Tonys18t]

son of a ...

my e30 failed smog today on the cat, took 20 mintes to get the little sucker on the rollers and it fails, dammit.

BTW, anyone who has a smog due about now, your renewal is being sent out late due to the CA budget mess, you'll be overdue by the time the bill arrives in the mail.

[MR 325]

Tony, does your car have an OEM cat?