NOR-CAL General Chat.

[decay]

don't want a vert anymore?

that, and, I'm tired of having what's basically a street-legal race car. it was fun for a while, but I think I want to try a semi-"luxury" build next, even if it will weigh more.

[Steven]

strongly considering parting out my vert and starting over on a sedan this year.

any local interest in:

- hardtop
- corbeau clubman seats with sliders (some wear and need a re-dye from sun)
- professionally pulled/shaped vert fenders

other requests considered, but 5-lug suspension, Torsen diff, chassis bracing, and drivetrain are either not FS or spoken for.

I'd be interested in the hardtop depending on how much you want...

[decay]

Someone already contacted me about it- will let you know if that falls through.

[kronus]

that, and, I'm tired of having what's basically a street-legal race car. it was fun for a while, but I think I want to try a semi-"luxury" build next, even if it will weigh more.

you could luxurize it pretty easily

come to think of it, i have the stuff for that :p

[decay]

For some perverse reason I really want a 4dr. Maybe because it's the only E30 chassis I haven't owned. Maybe because they're the stiffest chassis. But I have some ideas, and yeah, depending on what you still have sitting around, you might be able to help. :) I'll be in touch when I'm ready.

[Toodaloo]

4 door is the stiffest? Hmm. I've heard things like this before. Any mathematical/legit testing proof of this or is this based off of a couple wanks jacking up a corner of the car and opening and closing the doors to check the flex?

I hate the e36 four door, but actually really like the e30 sedan. I'd love to hear some insight on it

[CarsonE30]

I hate the e36 four door

Damn, right in the feels man!

[CarsonE30]

Just in case there was any interest in here, my Vader's are sold :ST1G:

[Bimmerman325i]

4 door is the stiffest? Hmm. I've heard things like this before. Any mathematical/legit testing proof of this or is this based off of a couple wanks jacking up a corner of the car and opening and closing the doors to check the flex?

I hate the e36 four door, but actually really like the e30 sedan. I'd love to hear some insight on it

I don't have data at my fingertips but the E36 sedan is noticeably stiffer than the coupe, same with the E46. I can feel the sedan vs coupe difference between my pair, and mine isn't even the stiffest example of a sedan.

A lot of the chassis stiffness has to do with fold down vs non-fold seats in the E36/46 sedans, but also B pillar placement/thickness/etc. The sedan with fold down seats is still stiffer than the coupe.

I'm willing to bet the E30 coupe/sedan stiffness difference isn't as dramatic.

[CarsonE30]

I don't have data at my fingertips but the E36 sedan is noticeably stiffer than the coupe, same with the E46. I can feel the sedan vs coupe difference between my pair, and mine isn't even the stiffest example of a sedan.

My E36 M3 is a sedan and 2 of my friends have coupes and I'll absolutely agree here, the sedan feels very different compared to the coupe in that respect. As for the E46, I've only ridden in a coupe so I can't speak for that.

[decay]

4 door is the stiffest? Hmm. I've heard things like this before. Any mathematical/legit testing proof of this or is this based off of a couple wanks jacking up a corner of the car and opening and closing the doors to check the flex?

I hate the e36 four door, but actually really like the e30 sedan. I'd love to hear some insight on it

I found torsional rigidity numbers on it for E30, E36, E46 years ago, but I'm old and senile and forgot where. I want to say it was a difference approaching 10%.

Has to do with the b-pillar needing to be robust enough to support the rear doors. Is true for all 3 chassis. Sedan stiffest, coupe/wagon not much worse, vert (without hardtop) wet noodle.

Anyway like I said that's only part of the reason. Other car is a BRZ, that's my coupe now, and since it has fold-down rear seats, it carries more than I could ever fit in the vert. However, if you like your friends, you will not put them in the back of one. If you're 6'3" like I am, they'd better be amputees.

[kronus]

I liked my e36 sedan. I put it down yesterday :( it is now en route to china to become BC coilovers

[kronus]

anyway e30 sedans are awesome

[CarsonE30]

I liked my e36 sedan. I put it down yesterday :( it is now en route to china to become BC coilovers

A byzanz brother has gone

[Cabriolet]

anyway e30 sedans are awesome

na


did heater valve, water pump, timing belt, temp sensors, T-Stat today.
then like 5 e30s showed up at my house

there is no measurable different between a sedan and coupe e30 in stiffness. they both share a solid b-pillar. the m3 is the only one you can feel is stiffer. the stiffness gained by the b pillar in a sedan is lost with the huge open gap in the chassis for the door its self.