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  • Stephen
    Шлем ишака
    • Aug 2008
    • 10774

    #286
    Originally posted by E30_fiend
    I'm a car whore. I get around. If you want to come down early, I can help you at the shop. So just let me know. I'll help out with anything I can.


    Chris, sounds like a plan to me!! Keep me posted.







    Taylor
    Which shop, where? i'm there..

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    • OBEY
      Mod Crazy
      • Oct 2008
      • 716

      #287
      Originally posted by z50_Jumper
      I was stoked to see one of my Down n Out stickers on your window yesterday.
      I want one of those stickers please! I think my e30 deserves one of those :)



      E30_fiend, I can't believe that my car is 3whp slower than yours while E30freak89 is pushing the same whp my stock I is pushing and E30freak89 has more "hp" modifications, right? BTW, I got about 200K miles on my e30 and a good 5k-10k were race miles whether it be drifting, autox, or road race miles. Makes me think if I should just leave everything as is and just chip it for now per Osh's suggestion.



      Osh and Chris, I'm sorry for hitting the side of the ramp when I was pulling in the garage; it's my welded diff's fault lol jk, my bad y'all. Thanks for hosting this event and I'll keep my eyes open for the $300 tune day, I'm very interested! If you were able to do the $300 that day, then I would have given you the cash on the spot, but I'll patiently wait...lol. Osh, thanks for the advice and I'm definitely going to consider your suggestion, but I will be putting my headers and exhaust system soon, so I may need a different tune than what you originally suggested. I'm excited about this tune and hopefully we can get it done soon, w00t!
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      • E30_fiend
        R3V OG
        • Apr 2006
        • 7348

        #288
        Originally posted by Stephen027
        Which shop, where? i'm there..

        At RMS. I will more than likely be there Saturday morning in the early AM.
        Need a performance chip for you BMW? Shoot me a PM and I'll get you taken care of!!
        Taylor- Follow me on Instagram @e30_fiend


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        • Oshm
          Noobie
          • Dec 2008
          • 10

          #289
          Easy does it Boys :-)

          Originally posted by E30_fiend
          I was stoked on the chip but everyone is always excited about a performance chip but honestly the power "seems" yo be different because you know in your mind you changed the chip which creates a plecibo effect. Anything over stock hp is nice. That's a given. The r3v limit was moved up so obviously the power band was moved as well. The seat of the pants dyno isn't accurate at all. That's why I said I wasn't bashing Mark's chip and that I just have to figure out what's going on for sure. And about the torque line being an ignition thing, I didn't blame that on the chip. I will have to do a test with and without the chip to see what happens and if all goes well this week I'll be testing it this Saturday in the morning.


          Taylor
          Hey everyone,

          Chirs, my nephew, notified me that the controversy has begun regarding Mark Ds tuning expertise. I have been in this industry a very long time and see this kind of thing often. From where I'm staanding, Mark D has talent. Any one that can recalibrate one these ECUs is talented in my book. He unfortunately, like myself, does not have a magic wand. I have tuned trousands of cars since I started in this biz back in 1973. What works well on one one car may not work as well on another same-make-model, particularly when other dynamics are introduced into the mix, for example high milage vs low milage, free flowing exhaust, used parts, etc etc. A perfect example of this truth is that BMW actually has different calibrations for cars with higher milage to manage the effects of wear and tear, particularly in the earlyier years like the E30 where adaptive systems where still behind the times. The example of what I'm saying showed on Dyno Day as some of you had identical setups with very different results. Don't blame the tuner. Work with Mark and help him to learn why and what is causing these anomolies. I will be working on Taylors 325 as a baseline recalibration to better understand why his car is behaving as it does. I will be recording a great deal of data to capture the snapshot of what is REALLY hapening, such as air flow output voltage curve, exhaust system presures intake dynamics, manifold pressure etc. Now this may not help others but it will explain how and why Taylors car is running the way it is. The best I can offer a customer, as Mark D, is an optimized chip calibration. The result of how well it works is multifold. Consider this whole ordeal as a learning experience for you. Remeber, the whole is equal to the sum of it's parts. No voodoo, just smart setups that work for each individual car. In the mean time, I hope your all planning to have a great Holiday Season. Peace

          -Osh
          Last edited by Oshm; 12-16-2008, 03:31 PM.
          Grease Monkey's Uncle

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          • accident
            R3V OG
            • Sep 2008
            • 7303

            #290
            Originally posted by Stephen027
            Did you come late or something?? I thought i wouldve noticed one of your cars??
            Yeah, he showed up about 30 minutes after you left.

            By the way Mariano, that M3 is suck as fuck. I was the guy who asked what was up with the wire in your fuse box.

            Originally posted by ROLLingKING
            i have a bronzit and plan on making it look sweet.
            Originally posted by slammin.e28
            Moral of this story?

            If you drive your e30 on stairs, you're gonna have a bad time.

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            • E30_fiend
              R3V OG
              • Apr 2006
              • 7348

              #291
              Originally posted by Oshm
              Hey everyone,

              Chirs, my nephew, notified me that the controversy has begun regarding Mark Ds tuning expertise. I have been in this industry a very long time and see this kind of thing often. From where I'm staanding, Mark D has talent. Any one that can recalibrate one these ECUs is talented in my book. He unfortunately, like myself, does not have a magic wand. I have tuned trousands of cars since I started in this biz back in 1973. What works well on one one car may not work as well on another same-make-model, particularly when other dynamics are introduced into the mix, for example high milage vs low milage, free flowing exhaust, used parts, etc etc. A perfect example of this truth is that BMW actually has different calibrations for cars with higher milage to manage the effects of wear and tear, particularly in the earlyier years like the E30 where adaptive systems where still behind the times. The example of what I'm saying showed on Dyno Day as some of you had identical setups with very different results. Don't blame the tuner. Work with Mark and help him to learn why and what is causing these anomolies. I will be working on Taylors 325 as a baseline recalibration to better understand why his car is behaving as it does. I will be recording a great deal of data to capture the snapshot of what is REALLY hapening, such as air flow output voltage curve, exhaust system presures intake dynamics, manifold pressure etc. Now this may not help others but it will explain how and why Taylors car is running the way it is. The best I can offer a customer, as Mark D, is an optimized chip calibration. The result of how well it works is multifold. Consider this whole ordeal as a learning experience for you. Remeber, the whole is equal to the sum of it's parts. No voodoo, just smart setups that work for each individual car. In the mean time, I hope your all planning to have a great Holiday Season. Peace

              -Osh

              I understand what you're saying Osh. Like I stated many times before, I'm not bashing Mark D at all. I am just presenting the fact that every car is different. Mark tuned and produced these chips off of very few baseline cars and tweeked the settings as he saw fit. What I'm saying is obviously the chip I received isn't working as well for my car as it would for say a lower mileage car or something like that. The only true way to squeeze as much power out of your current setup is to properly tune it with something more than just a baseline chip for one certain setup. Every motor has different needs and those needs need to be addressed thoroughly in order to produce peak power.

              Thanks again for Sunday Osh and I will see you in a few days.







              Taylor
              Need a performance chip for you BMW? Shoot me a PM and I'll get you taken care of!!
              Taylor- Follow me on Instagram @e30_fiend


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              • LowR3V'in
                R3V Elite
                • Feb 2004
                • 4209

                #292
                Was it a dynojet?

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                • reelizmpro
                  R3V OG
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 9449

                  #293
                  No, it was a Clayton dyno.
                  "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

                  85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
                  88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
                  89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
                  91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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                  • CleanAzzE30z
                    R3V OG
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 11794

                    #294
                    Originally posted by Stephen027
                    Did you come late or something?? I thought i wouldve noticed one of your cars??
                    I was there!!! As was my ///M3. It was pretty hard to miss seeing as when I arrived, I drove right up to the front of the shop.



                    Mariano


                    2001 Titaniumsilber 540i Sport 6-Speed
                    1990 Diamantschwarz Alpha-N 2.5L ///M3
                    1986 Alpinweiss 325e M50B25 (R.I.P.)

                    -Talk to me when more sound comes from the induction than from the exhaust...

                    -Argentina........lo mas grande que hay.

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                    • THATDONFC
                      Mod Crazy
                      • Jun 2008
                      • 639

                      #295
                      Did everyone get their Dyno results?

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                      • robrez
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 3376

                        #296
                        I didn;t get my results. PM me if you need my email address again. Thanks.
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                        • E30_fiend
                          R3V OG
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 7348

                          #297
                          Like you said Chris, I write like a 7 year old. I could have easily messed up any of the emails I wrote down. I still haven't gotten a chance to get on the internet to check mine.
                          Need a performance chip for you BMW? Shoot me a PM and I'll get you taken care of!!
                          Taylor- Follow me on Instagram @e30_fiend


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                          • MR 325
                            Moderator
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 37826

                            #298
                            I got an email but no files attached to it.
                            BimmerHeads
                            Classic BMW Specialists
                            Santa Clarita, CA

                            www.BimmerHeads.com

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                            • THATDONFC
                              Mod Crazy
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 639

                              #299
                              Originally posted by MR 325
                              I got an email but no files attached to it.
                              Shit... I'll check all the email's I sent out. I attached two jpegs. On graph with rwhp and one with crankhp. I'll get on it tomorrow at work.

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                              • kronus
                                R3V OG
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 13003

                                #300
                                I got my dyno results. Thanks.

                                I'll post em up if you guys want to see what a chipped eta makes (and laugh at me)
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