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**iamsam** · 05-16-2011, 07:29 PM

that list of parts shouldn't add up to $2k. Unless he bought it all straight from BMW.

**lambo** · 05-21-2011, 12:09 PM

What do you guys think of this?

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How difficult/expensive is a 5 speed swap?

I was reading it up and I found this list of things you need.

Originally posted by nando View Post

transmission, clutch, throwout bearing, pressure plate, flywheel
5 speed pedal box (these are different depending on if you have an airbag or not)
clutch master/slave cylinders & lines
rear driveshaft
shifter assembly

The guy firmly believed that the M20 has a timing chain, despite me telling him it is a belt...is that a bad sign? Seems like he has taken good care of it...

$1750 seems like a decent price given the auto and the miles. I'll hopefully be checking it out soon.

**lambo** · 05-21-2011, 03:13 PM

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oooo...

**downforce22** · 05-21-2011, 03:47 PM

the e30 could be sweet with some different wheels and a few things done to it, seems like a decent buy, good condition if you can live with an auto for a while...

That 5er is niiice!

**iamsam** · 05-21-2011, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by lambo View Post

The guy firmly believed that the M20 has a timing chain, despite me telling him it is a belt...is that a bad sign? Seems like he has taken good care of it...

Even if he firmly asserted that it has a timing chain even after you told him that your are an E30 enthusiast, part of an E30 online forum, and that you and everyone else knows for a fact that every M20 came with a timing belt, dude, i dunno. At that point I would have told him he is an idiot, and to take the dang timing cover off and PROVE it's a chain.

But seriously, go take a look. 5-speed swap can't be that hard. It is just literally bolt-on.

**iamsam** · 05-21-2011, 05:41 PM

Dang! A fer real Euro E24 for a good price. And look at that interior!!

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**lambo** · 05-21-2011, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by iamcreepingdeath View Post

Even if he firmly asserted that it has a timing chain even after you told him that your are an E30 enthusiast, part of an E30 online forum, and that you and everyone else knows for a fact that every M20 came with a timing belt, dude, i dunno. At that point I would have told him he is an idiot, and to take the dang timing cover off and PROVE it's a chain.

But seriously, go take a look. 5-speed swap can't be that hard. It is just literally bolt-on.

How difficult would a 5 speed swap be with jack stands? Also, how long would it take?

**iamsam** · 05-21-2011, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by lambo View Post

How difficult would a 5 speed swap be with jack stands? Also, how long would it take?

Dunno... if I had all the parts, and somehow didn't run into any ridiculous snags, rough estimate for me to do it would be a solid day, morning to evening. So 8-12 hrs roughly.

how difficult? About as difficult as swapping an engine, I would assume, which took me and a buddy approx 12-14 hrs (which doesn't include us going out and getting the motor from a junk yard).

Disclaimer: I have never done a 5-speed swap before, but it seems pretty straightforward. Just yank out drivetrain past the motor back to the axles, put in flywheel/clutch, bolt in the manual drivetrain back to the rear axles. Then slap in manual pedal bracket assembly and run clutch fluid line through the firewall to connect master cylinder to slave.