7/23 - Lookout mountain drive/GrillBQ

[blefevre]

My incredible foresight.



hmm, the abarth sounds like a pretty quick car, at 133hp and 2200 lbs. Well, not as quick as an E36 M3 though. And it has got to definitely be more expensive. And "novelty" does run out very quickly, but having a fast car that performs is longer lasting. And what is the aftermarket support on the Abarth? Prob next to nil, compared to the E36 M3.

American version will have over 170 turbocharged, multi-air, hp around 2,300 pounds. Yeah, awesome.

[Bimmerman325i]

hmm, the abarth sounds like a pretty quick car, at 133hp and 2200 lbs. Well, not as quick as an E36 M3 though. And it has got to definitely be more expensive. And "novelty" does run out very quickly, but having a fast car that performs is longer lasting. And what is the aftermarket support on the Abarth? Prob next to nil, compared to the E36 M3.

a) turbo-- doesn't loose as much power up here as the M3 does.

secondly, it's a brand new car, I think ~$25-30k. Pretty well priced for its performance/features/luxury/brand new car warranty.

The M3 will likely be the better performing car at half the cost, more practical, roomier, handle better, and has better aftermarket support....but who cares?

Not everyone is looking for a sports/race car or even a moddable car as a DD, some folks just want a fun sporty reliable car with a warranty. I'd rock one. Would the M3 beat it around a track? Undoubtedly. Does that matter? Not really.

[iamsam]

^^ where is part b) of you above post? ;)

Yeah fer sure it's all up to Brad, whether he cares or not about the mentioned aspects.

[Bimmerman325i]

haha. forgot b.

The Abarth hate in here is amusing. Cars have come a loooooooong way since the E30 and E36 in terms of just about everything.

[iamsam]

What Abarth hate?

well, other than my "sucking" statement, which I guess I should disclaim now that I was just kidding... ;)

[Bimmerman325i]

What Abarth hate?)

The Abarth will probably end up sucking.

hmm, the abarth sounds like a pretty quick car, at 133hp and 2200 lbs. Well, not as quick as an E36 M3 though. And it has got to definitely be more expensive. And "novelty" does run out very quickly, but having a fast car that performs is longer lasting. And what is the aftermarket support on the Abarth? Prob next to nil, compared to the E36 M3.

[iamsam]

Last quote isn't hate, it is an honest comparison. Novelty in general runs out fast, nothing "hate-like" about that. Also, I would venture to guess it's true that the E36 M3 has greater aftermarket support.

[Bimmerman325i]

Last quote isn't hate, it is an honest comparison.

having never driven the Abarth and having rarely driven an E36 M3, while using euro-spec figures.

"honest" comparison as in "i don't know anything about the brand spanking new abarth but it can't be as good as a 16 year old BMW"

[iamsam]

I don't care enough and certainly don't know enough to possibly hate on an Abarth. It's like me having strong opinions on a certain football player. I know nothing of football and also don't care. My honest comparison was just me honestly speculating based on what I do know. (or thought I knew).

point is, no hate here.

So, Brad, I was just kidding when I said the Abarth will suck. I really have no idea. Sorry of I got the wrong idea across.

[hyperE30]

We were too busy chilling in good weather with good beer....

It was awesome none less..

All that, and we grilled and drank beer for 6 hours literally 10 feet from the cars.

It was a great relaxing get together, and ironically had the most E30s present at one of our meets in a looooong time.

It was relaxing, I have couple pictures I snapped with my phone ill post when I get home... this has to have another date next month!!!!!

[lambo]

It was relaxing, I have couple pictures I snapped with my phone ill post when I get home... this has to have another date next month!!!!!

Yes! Preferably early because I leave on the 12th...

[blefevre]

I probably can't go to another one until September. I can try to make it to one next month if someone sets it up.

[325ix]

I think it is the abarth esse esse version that is 170 hp, not just the American version.

In other news, I am talking with critter about buying his M3.

[blefevre]

The american version is nearly completely different, which is what makes it so attractive. It will have 170-175hp instead of the base euro 130 something and a much, much stiffer frame, and a better rear suspension. This is all for US safety standards and to compete with the mini cooper better.

[blefevre]

Here is the latest as of today. We will know in november. The dealer told me they should have them in Jan 2012.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/07/25/f...n-los-angeles/