12+ Gone at Batman Cinema Shooting in Aurora

[Grand525]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18921492

[Farbin Kaiber]

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=256175

[iamsam]

holy balls


I am def gonna get my CWP.

[Bimmerman325i]

FWIW, you can't carry in crowded places like movie theaters, sports arenas, etc.

That said, I'm getting mine asap.

[iamsam]

FWIW, you can't carry in crowded places like movie theaters, sports arenas, etc.

hmm, i wonder how the shooter managed it then?

;)

[lambo]

hmm, i wonder how the shooter managed it then?

;)

Are you insinuating that he...broke the law???? That's quite the accusation, mister.

[iamsam]

^^^ ha ha! That there is a major hurdle it seems that gun control advocates have difficulty overcoming.

[Bimmerman325i]

missing the point entirely. It's illegal to carry concealed in a movie theater-- think about what would happen if you do actually manage to stop a shooter in that situation and you had been illegally carrying your weapon?

Instant manslaughter/murder, since you lose all the legal CCW protections because you were not carrying legally. In the eyes of the law, the only difference between you and the rampaging lunatic is that you only killed one person, not 12, and that a jury might not convict you because they agree with your actions.

[iamsam]

missing the point entirely. It's illegal to carry concealed in a movie theater-- think about what would happen if you do actually manage to stop a shooter in that situation and you had been illegally carrying your weapon?

Instant manslaughter/murder, since you lose all the legal CCW protections because you were not carrying legally. In the eyes of the law, the only difference between you and the rampaging lunatic is that you only killed one person, not 12, and that a jury might not convict you because they agree with your actions.

yep, not too worried about that if I manage to save some 2 year old (especially mine, who is 3) from being shot point blank.

and what are the cops gonna do- lock you up for potentially saving many lives because you carried your gun into the wrong place?

[Bimmerman325i]

yep, not too worried about that if I manage to save some 2 year old (especially mine, who is 3) from being shot point blank.

and what are the cops gonna do- lock you up for potentially saving many lives because you carried your gun into the wrong place?

In all likelihood, you'd then get to see your daughter grow up from behind bars.

Legal use of force != moral/ethical use of force.

And yes, they will. You carried and used your weapon in a way that is not allowed for by your CCW permit, meaning you lose all legal protections afforded said permit. Others might agree with your actions, but you would legally have committed murder or manslaughter. You can only carry, draw, and use your gun in extremely limited circumstances legally.

[iamsam]

it's a messed up system. And yes i'd rather see her from behind my bars than not see her.

[Bimmerman325i]

it's a messed up system. And yes i'd rather see her from behind my bars than not see her.

No disagreement here.

[twinkse30]

I live like next to century 16,cop sirens woke me up last night. Theres crazy shit going on in Aurora all time but this is like shit you will see in Mexico!(Well at least where I'm from..)

[325ix]

Even if you had a gun there, would you try and take a shot? There is so much to take into account. The loud noisy movie, the other guy shooting, tear gas, and people running everywhere. There is a good chance of hitting someone else other than the shooter.

[Roland H]

Even if you had a gun there, would you try and take a shot? There is so much to take into account. The loud noisy movie, the other guy shooting, tear gas, and people running everywhere. There is a good chance of hitting someone else other than the shooter.

Depends on what theatre, seat, etc. He was walking up the side-aisles shooting people while they were sitting. Next time you're in a theatre, sit down and look at the side aisles and the people walking up them. Assuming you were in the theatre that wasn't gassed, or far away from the gas, you have a pretty decent shot.