Spring BBQ! March 24th

[AbeSonic]

Food bitches :)

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Yes that IS Carne Asada and BBQ chicken

[Earendil]

I feel like we should be having a beer to close out this argument, but I'll settle for a wi-five. At least we can agree that it'd be a pretty neat webapp. Like I said, if I ever pull a free weekend out of my ass, consider it done.

I'd like to have it done in time for the e30 picnic since last year I didn't know anyone and got utterly lost. Would have been invaluable then.

All development discussions should be done with a beer.

That would be awesome for the picnic. Though it would be sad to see all those converging dots, and then notice that a few of them haven't moved from the side of the freeway for a while :(

[OldDrunkenSailor]

I feel like we should be having a beer to close out this argument, but I'll settle for a wi-five. At least we can agree that it'd be a pretty neat webapp. Like I said, if I ever pull a free weekend out of my ass, consider it done.

I'd like to have it done in time for the e30 picnic since last year I didn't know anyone and got utterly lost. Would have been invaluable then.

[HarukoE30]

Sure is a blast in the snow :) Yeah, I'm bringing Amanda.

:hitler: Why you gotta work until 1:30?

Most votes are being casted for a final meeting area in Wilsonville before Portland around 12:15-12:30PM

[Earendil]

That's just blatantly wrong is the thing.

Response times in webapps are just as good as they are for native. If you're talking about buttons looking correct per platform, you can do that with user-agent string detection and just CSS it to match whatever platform.

That would handle that aspect of it.

The intrinsic annoyance that is having to download and install crap per platform and do platform specific updates and all that nonsense is what pisses me off.

Than may I suggest a new platform? I'm able to update all software in 3 "clicks", minus entering my device password. Downloading new software takes knowing the app's name, and a similar number of clicks. Give me a name and I bet I can start a download in 10 seconds.

My idea centers around essentially going to a randomized link like thing.net/aDSLFKJ and anyone who goes to that link is put into a room (or you password protect it or whatever) with the other people in your group, along with a fatty map showing position, distance to next person, distance to leader (in time, miles, whatever).

That sounds like a great idea. I'd love to see someone implement that. I'm rather surprised someone hasn't already? I may go looking for such a web app later.

Unless you're needing camera access (on iOS, since Android supports camera in HTML5 support) or a TON of offline storage support, there is no intrinsic benefit to natively coded apps. It's ignorant and silly to say that they automatically give the best experience.
/nerd rant

It is perhaps time for us to take our nerd argument offline, since calling a software developer ignorant, regardless of how ignorant they may actually be, is just bound to turn into a heated discussion. I won't pretend to know your background or knowledge, so will refrain from calling you ignorant for the time being :)
I also don't want to rob Abe of his BBQ thread ;-)

But I'll end my public comments by saying that your idea is great, and is exactly what web apps are made for. I can think of nothing specific to your idea that would require a device specific API. Though I am admittedly not intimately familiar with the differences between HTML5 and the major Mobile OS APIs. But I am aware of a number of UI enhancements that are supported by the API, and not HTML5 or other open technology.

To do a web app is to be okay with the lowest common denominator in the market. If that fully encompasses an idea, a web app is perfect.

[DeM3n]

AWD must be wicked fun in the rain, or currently the snow
Wife coming? Not sure if I am taking Jessica, this is my first meet and greet with everyone.

Sure is a blast in the snow :) Yeah, I'm bringing Amanda.

[2mAn]

Hey Simon Yes I would like to hook up somewhere
After Olympia I'm on the west side of the sound
This weekend :-)
I texted brad I have his # so maybe we can make
It happen:-)

you can meet us at Lukes place in Chehalis, we'll probably be there around 11-11:30am. His address is here

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=242143&page=3

@ProducerJohn, I dont think we will be staying in Chehalsi for more than 30 minutes :( but what do i know

[OldDrunkenSailor]

That's just blatantly wrong is the thing.

Response times in webapps are just as good as they are for native. If you're talking about buttons looking correct per platform, you can do that with user-agent string detection and just CSS it to match whatever platform.

The intrinsic annoyance that is having to download and install crap per platform and do platform specific updates and all that nonsense is what pisses me off.

My idea centers around essentially going to a randomized link like thing.net/aDSLFKJ and anyone who goes to that link is put into a room (or you password protect it or whatever) with the other people in your group, along with a fatty map showing position, distance to next person, distance to leader (in time, miles, whatever).

Unless you're needing camera access (on iOS, since Android supports camera in HTML5 support) or a TON of offline storage support, there is no intrinsic benefit to natively coded apps. It's ignorant and silly to say that they automatically give the best experience.

/nerd rant

[HarukoE30]

Hey Jeffw and Andy C. and I plan on rolling from Aurora/Wilsonville at around 12. what were you thinking?

Pm'd back

in the morning I'll be at work in Clackamas right off I-5, if any caravan is passing by there I can join up whenever.

Sent PM w/ game plan since I am Peyton Manning this shit.

I think there might be a number of people meeting at my place on the way there. We could time it to meet up with you as we rolled through town somehow

Yeah if we need to stop in town to grab folks / add to the line we should.

My shop is like 10 minutes tops from the park, so I'm sure we'll figure something out.

Going to run it by everyone to see if this can be our last destination stop. Seriously guys, if you wish to caravan anywhere Southern part of Oregon on up to Portland. PM so I can get everyone on the same page. Need this done by nightfall.

[Earendil]

The point is that you shouldn't need a platform specific app for something that should be on the web. You can do it better with web technologies on more platforms. No one needs to download an app, have to install updates, share screen names, none of that stuff. The entire thing can be run from a browser with gusto.

So many ways I want to disagree with your wording.
Platform specific apps give the best HMI experience.
There is no reason a platform specific app can't have cross platform compatibility.

Now, this might make for a good web app, and if you want to broadcast your location to anonymous people, great. I don't think I'd join such a website though :\
To each his own!

[e30austin]

I think there might be a number of people meeting at my place on the way there. We could time it to meet up with you as we rolled through town somehow

My shop is like 10 minutes tops from the park, so I'm sure we'll figure something out.

[LuckyHenriksen]

All the southern guys: if you want, we can all meet at my shop (right off the freeway) and head down Marine Drive to the park.

If not, guess I'll go by myself! Haha.

I think there might be a number of people meeting at my place on the way there. We could time it to meet up with you as we rolled through town somehow

[OldDrunkenSailor]

pretty foul looking, but the overall point that i'm trying to make is that you don't need an app for any part of that. you can do it out of a web browser so people don't need to have some crappy app open or download updates or anything. you can just point a browser to it and it would just work.

If I had a free weekend I'd just do it myself and be done with this mess.

[e30austin]

There's app for that. "Voxer."

[OldDrunkenSailor]

that doesn't have the map portion and cmon, typing on your phone is so much safer than talking while driving.