Years ago when I sold my old e36, I remember the WAR chip just coming out and sounding like such a great idea. Years later I'm back into an e30, and it doesn't really seem like people are using them? I have done some searching on this site and in general and didn't find much relevant. Did I miss something? Trying to decide on which route I take so I can slowly start acquiring parts.
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There is an entire section dedicated to the WAR chip so yes it is still a viable option. Some people hate it, some love it. I just think more people are swapping engines and using factory DME's and Megasquirt these days.Last edited by reelizmpro; 09-23-2016, 02:26 PM."I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj
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88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
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Originally posted by brickdaddy View PostFrom what i hear the software is troublesome at best. It ""forgets" tunes constantly and just isn't relaible. Whodwho makes a pnp MS built into your core for a very decent price. I'm running it now and after a learning curve, which I'm still at the beginning of, its pretty cool!
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Originally posted by haaken675 View PostI must be blind, because i don't see anywhere where there is a section just for the WAR chip...Even searched the site, google, etc. Even the miller forum is nearly dead."I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj
85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER
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Originally posted by brickdaddy View PostIm running it on my na m20 now. Im currently converting to an m50 vtps so i can add boost in the near future! Fun things to come and with this MS setup you can do pretty much anything you want.
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As someone who ran a WAR setup for years and has recently switched to MS, I can tell you that MS is better in every way. If you're going FI, WAR chip is nearly impossible to make run well. NA motors are easier, but tuning is still a pain because you can't do anything live; you have to take the chip out, plug it into your PC, make changes, burn it, re-install, and then test drive. Didn't work out? Start again from step 1. Compare that to MS where you just change the value and it happens instantly, with zero other steps required. And, as others have mentioned, MS is expandable in that you can add features and functions in the future if you need them; not possible with WAR. Plus getting support for MS problems is much easier do to the massive number of people on the various MS forums. Ever since the Miller WAR Room page was shutdown, the only help you'll get is from Brody or Dan at Miller itself, and that's if they have the time to talk you through it.
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Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View PostAs someone who ran a WAR setup for years and has recently switched to MS, I can tell you that MS is better in every way. If you're going FI, WAR chip is nearly impossible to make run well. NA motors are easier, but tuning is still a pain because you can't do anything live; you have to take the chip out, plug it into your PC, make changes, burn it, re-install, and then test drive. Didn't work out? Start again from step 1. Compare that to MS where you just change the value and it happens instantly, with zero other steps required. And, as others have mentioned, MS is expandable in that you can add features and functions in the future if you need them; not possible with WAR. Plus getting support for MS problems is much easier do to the massive number of people on the various MS forums. Ever since the Miller WAR Room page was shutdown, the only help you'll get is from Brody or Dan at Miller itself, and that's if they have the time to talk you through it."I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj
85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER
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Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View PostYes, you have to remove the chip every time in order to burn it; it will not register on the PC if it's still installed on the ECU board.
To upload a new tune, the car needs to be off and like stated above, each tune needs to be burned to the chip. No live alterations can be made. This is a pain in the ass which is why I want to switch to MS.
Who's using MS with a 24v engine? Anyone have advice on which MS setup to go with and from which vendor for an s50?
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