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Originally posted by marshallnoise View PostYou think Kasich practically a right-wing extremist. Then you say the GOP has strayed so far from conservatism that it is hilarious to you.
You seem to imply that Kasich is too conservative, then turn around and immediately say that the GOP isn't conservative.
I can't be the only one who is confused by your post above.
The extreme right of GOP majority makes Kasich look moderate, even though he is pretty deep right himself, Thats why I find you thinking he is "too liberal" funny. The dude defunds planned parenthood, literally the most anti liberal thing you could do.
Ignoring Trumps hilariously bad ideas about policy I think he is more True conservative in ideals then the rest of the party, hes far from liberal. Liberals dont waste money on walls.1989 BMW 325is | 2019 Ford Ranger FX4willschnitz
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Originally posted by Wschnitz View PostSo yeah your comprehension is borked.
The extreme right of GOP majority makes Kasich look moderate, even though he is pretty deep right himself, Thats why I find you thinking he is "too liberal" funny. The dude defunds planned parenthood, literally the most anti liberal thing you could do.
Ignoring Trumps hilariously bad ideas about policy I think he is more True conservative in ideals then the rest of the party, hes far from liberal. Liberals dont waste money on walls.
The only true conservative left the race with Rand Paul. And he is what you would call a Classical Liberal, the original conservative.
It's actually ironic what you said about the GOP being far removed from conservatism because I agree, but for much different reasons.
And building a fence is not a waste of money if you simply reduce the aid given to Mexico every year by the cost of the fence. Net spending = $0. Fucking brilliant if you ask me.Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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Yeah, Id say Ruboto and Cruz are pretty far from conservatism by your definition too then.
Walls are dumb, Europe has shown us that. Fixing trade so companies dont throw all their American workers in the trash to hire H1B holders would work better.1989 BMW 325is | 2019 Ford Ranger FX4willschnitz
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Originally posted by Wschnitz View PostYeah, Id say Ruboto and Cruz are pretty far from conservatism by your definition too then.
Walls are dumb, Europe has shown us that. Fixing trade so companies dont throw all their American workers in the trash to hire H1B holders would work better.
Cruz though, he believes in small government and adhering to the constitution. His religious projections are too strong for me (even though I am very religious myself), but I can support him. The courts have done a fine job moderating anything too religious so it's less of an issue to me. And he is not establishment; the blueblood republicans hate him. That I like.
I dunno, walls in conjunction with trade stuff and massive ($250K violation for each undocumented worker) would be the method I would choose. Throw every damn thing at the glass window and see what sticks. Problem is that farmers want cheap labor, Democrats want new constituents and the minimum wage increasing puts higher pressure on small business who will hire illegals, pay cash under the table, etc. Someone needs to say "too fucking bad" to everyone and let's just get used to the costs that increase in some areas and fall in others.Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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Originally posted by Dagamus(NM) View PostThank you for the update, have been busy at work this morning. Working off of old news apparently.Si vis pacem, para bellum.
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I think the Farmers needing cheaper labor is more related to Farming being fucked up in the first place when it comes to trade, but yeah I see where you are going.
I hate most of the GOP just for their religious extremism, more then their policies.
Its a secular position, fuck off with your jesus shit and do your job.1989 BMW 325is | 2019 Ford Ranger FX4willschnitz
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Originally posted by Wschnitz View PostI hate most of the GOP just for their religious extremism, more then their policies.
Its a secular position, fuck off with your jesus shit and do your job.
YESSSSS! times a billions! alot of these stupid policies about abortion and gay marriage would be non-issues if people would stop acting like everyone in the country needs to adhere to evangelical christian views.
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Tolerance: It's a one way street.
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Originally posted by marshallnoise View PostTolerance: It's a one way street.
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Point is freedom of religion expression should equate to freedom from religious expression as well.
People need to be able to do what it is that they want to as long as it doesn't come at the expense of another person. The last part is what the debate often is about.sigpic
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It's the picking and choosing of who is worthy of tolerance that ticks me off.
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