Doesn't a turbo effectively increase the engine discplacement?

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  • b*saint
    No R3VLimiter
    • May 2006
    • 3794

    #1

    Doesn't a turbo effectively increase the engine discplacement?

    Some kid was arguing with me it just forces in more air. Doesn't the rule of same amount of air but smaller volume mean increase in pressure? So if you're turbo is forcing in what a v8 would naturally be sucking in, you can say your displacement is the same (in a perfect world.) I know there is heat and all that other crap but it boils down to a turbo is adding displacement.

    Yes or no.
    Ma che cazzo state dicendo? :|
  • SpecM
    R3V Elite
    • Oct 2005
    • 4531

    #2
    It just adds more air dude.

    The engine still displaces the same volume, there's just more air (by mass) in that volume

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    • kronus
      R3V OG
      • Apr 2008
      • 13000

      #3
      Displacement has a consistent definition: "Engine displacement is the volume swept by all the pistons inside the cylinders of an internal combustion engine in a single movement from top dead centre (TDC) to bottom dead centre (BDC)."

      A turbo increases the amount of air in each cylinder during combustion, but that does not speak at all to a cylinder's volume.
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      • b*saint
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        • May 2006
        • 3794

        #4
        Obviously physically it doesn't add displacement.
        Ma che cazzo state dicendo? :|

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        • b*saint
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          • May 2006
          • 3794

          #5
          Hmm. So why did BMW include the displacement of the turbo for the engine size on old turbo BMWs?
          Ma che cazzo state dicendo? :|

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          • SpecM
            R3V Elite
            • Oct 2005
            • 4531

            #6
            ^ marketing

            Because it sounds good

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            • nando
              Moderator
              • Nov 2003
              • 34827

              #7
              to distinguish them from their N/A counterparts. In otherwords, marketing.

              turbos basically increase the engine's VE by recycling waste heat from the exhaust. That's about it.
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              • Click
                Mod Crazy
                • Feb 2010
                • 637

                #8
                Once you hit 30 pounds of boost or so, the pressure causes the walls of the cylinder to expand out, thereby increasing the displacement of the engine...











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                • tinkwithanr
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 377

                  #9
                  To make them seem better, and hopefully sell more cars.

                  Displacement of an engine is a constant unless you get into cylinder deactivation or other very technical exceptions.
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                  • b*saint
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                    • May 2006
                    • 3794

                    #10
                    Ok I found my answer on another forum because I was talking about EFFECTIVE displacement, not actual.

                    Thanks anyways for your input even though it wasn't helpful.
                    Ma che cazzo state dicendo? :|

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                    • e30moneypit
                      Advanced Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 115

                      #11
                      you are thinking superchargers because they are often expressed in terms of capacity in liters..... and the rest is too difficult to explain .. search!

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                      • devon.818
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 2937

                        #12
                        Originally posted by b*saint
                        Obviously physically it doesn't add displacement.

                        so you agree you're wrong?
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                        • b*saint
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • May 2006
                          • 3794

                          #13
                          Originally posted by devon.818
                          so you agree you're wrong?
                          /thread
                          No I agree you suck at reading.
                          Ma che cazzo state dicendo? :|

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                          • Roysneon
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                            • Apr 2010
                            • 4505

                            #14
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                            • CrusherCurtis
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                              • Mar 2010
                              • 2532

                              #15
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