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  • bimmerlaw
    Noobie
    • Jul 2014
    • 3

    #76
    Originally posted by TimeMachinE30
    All too common.. sorry to hear.

    So how is Treehouse racing associated? They listed it or were the seller of the shell?
    As best as I can tell, Treehouse racing was Jon Siccardi's online store, and BimmersUSA was his repair shop. Scot is the person I dealt with, and he referred to Jon as "his partner." Treehouse is the online company that sells aftermarket control arm bushings. The shell was titled to Jon, and Scot showed me all of Jon's track cars, parts, bicycles, and an enormous RV housed at BimmersUSA. The M3 shell was buried in all his stuff. Despite my requests, I never met Jon or was able to otherwise communicate with Jon. Therefore, Scot and Jon are one and the same as far as I am concerned. For all I know, Jon is Scot's imaginary friend, or perhaps the other way around?

    The last time I called their phone number, I got "the magic jack customer is not available."

    It's funny how in this post where he is selling an eyeball arm, Scot was sure to point out every detail of scratches and rubber marks on a who-cares part, however, serious serious issues were not disclosed about the M3 shell. Silence on serious and known material defects is not being "an honest guy but ... one hell of a salesman" as another person pointed out on another forum about Jon. It is deceptive and dishonest, plain and simple. It's especially bad when dealing with people who have to pay first sight unseen, then travel a long distance to learn their disappointment. Just think about what level of ethics you would have to have to be okay doing that to people. Of course I was lucky to be local and save everyone else from that part of the experience, but what excuse does Jon have for the rear bumper being missing with him then apparently hiding like a coward? Such a shame and embarrassment for someone in the BMW community to put their reputation on the line to save themselves some dollars. It's telling that he doesn't value his own reputation more than the bumper. Seriously, quality issues aside, what honest person thinks it is okay to just completely ignore an expensive-hard-to-replace missing bumper that was supposed to be part of the deal. Assuming he is still in business online, I would suggest BMW enthusiasts think twice about giving them business if they agree that these are not good/honest people to deal with.

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    • bimmerlaw
      Noobie
      • Jul 2014
      • 3

      #77
      Originally posted by navid41691
      So anything wrong with the shell that wasn't disclosed or are you just missing the rear bumper?
      As far as the deal goes, I am just missing the rear bumper. In that respect I was blind sided. As for the condition of the shell itself, I was able to inspect it and adjust my offer price accordingly based on the damage. I mention it only so people can draw their own conclusions about seller's character. For those that are curious: The radiator support is all jacked up and must be replaced. The passenger floor is damaged where it looks as if the right lower control arm at some point probably broke sending the wheel into the firewall/floor. One of the front shock towers has been replaced/rewelded in DIY fashion. The strut holes were DIY drilled to elongate them. The decklid is fiberglass and has small pieces broken off here and there and the spoiler is all cracked. I own a bodyshop so all of these are issues we can manage. For the average person, it's not just a source the parts and piece it together project. Were I to sell it, there is no way possible I'd let someone make even a deposit unless they saw good pictures of the radiator support, shock tower, and floor/firewall damage.

      The condition issue I also mention also for comic value. In one advertisement, it's here let me show you closeups of some rubber markings on a part no one cares if it is scuffed. But then on the M3 shell, it's we won't mention or take any closeups of the serious damage we know about .... and oh by the way, after you pay you'll find out that a major hard to source part that was supposed to be included ... actually it isn't.

      Because the shell and its parts were buried in his shop, I had Scot sign the advertisement listing out the parts so I'd be sure they were included in the deal. When the bumper was missing, I brought the signed advertisement to Scot's attention. He said he sent it along to Jon letting him know the bumper was supposed to be part of the deal. Apparently that wasn't enough to motivate Jon to care.

      It's also a little sad because I actually enjoyed talking to Scot until this issue. He seemed like a genuinely good guy. If this is truly all Jon's fault then I do feel bad that Scot was in the middle, however, given the circumstance and what more he could have/should have done, it's hard not to hold him accountable by association.

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      • Todd Black 88
        No R3VLimiter
        • Oct 2007
        • 3449

        #78



        Bumper if you are still looking.
        Originally posted by codyep3
        I hope to Christ you have looks going for you, because you sure as fuck don't have any intelligence.
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        • Ray Smoodiver
          Moderator
          • Jun 2004
          • 8809

          #79
          Wow, Treehouse Racing sound like complete scumbags.

          My money will not be going there.

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          • mr2peak
            R3VLimited
            • Aug 2008
            • 2388

            #80
            What else was wrong with the shell?
            Drive it hard. Maintain it well.


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