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  • cyborgben
    Noobie
    • Feb 2011
    • 35

    #1

    proposed rating system for used parts...

    I searched the web and couldn't find one so we can call it the CB system in you like it.... actually you can call it that if you don't... i will own up to it either way!

    Ok, since I have started to sell some parts online, and it is difficult to determine the true quality (even with photos) and there is no consistent rating system… One person’s 8/10 and another’s can be very different. For example and 8/10 is a “C” in many colleges and high schools…not so great. But if supermodels are a 10/10 and your girlfriend is an 8/10 then you are pretty darn lucky! Here is my proposed scale:
    USED PART RATING SYSTEM
    New – as if it came right off the shelf, right from the factory
    10 – New-Old-Stock( NOS) – an unused new part that shows that it has been around a while with a little scuff, dented box, or scratched label. This could be placed onto a new vehicle and be indistinguishable from the other parts.
    9- new car take offs, remanufactured parts – these parts have 100% of the life expectance of the new part but show some evidence that they were used at one point. Most people would find these to be identical to a #10 or New part, but some perfectionists would not. Maybe this part was used and then the owner changed their mind in just a few miles.
    8 – a very low mileage part with very minimal indication of wear. A partially refurbished part that has had major wear parts and the appearance repaired. Clean, shiny and usable as is. Most parts on cars at car shows are in this category.
    7 – a lower mileage used part with some swirl marks, dirt or slight wear. Mechanical parts will have a life expectancy somewhat less than a new part, yet still shows no indication of failure such as unusual noises, clicking or bearing wobble. Most people mount these parts without cleaning or altering.
    6 – a good used part. A daily driver car is happy to accept these parts. A meticulous enthusiast will likely clean or slightly refurbish this part. A mechanical part will provide a good long term life, but notably less that an 8,9 or 10 part, body panels will show very minor scuffs or a very minor door ding and the paint will need to be buffed out and may not match newer paint.
    5 – suitable for a daily driver. Panels may have scratches, scuffs, stone chips or tiny rust bubbles. Mechanical parts will show wear and are dirty but are still 100% functional although their life expectancy is about ½ of a new part. Bearings and seals may show signs of being slightly loose although no leaks are noted. A meticulous enthusiast or restorer will often remove these parts and replace them or rebuild them. Plastic and Leather parts have lost their color, shine or texture and may have a crack in a noon visible area.
    4 – Many unrestored cars on the road have these parts in use. Rust bubbles and dents are visible, paint is faded, bearings make some noise, rubber is drying out, and seals may be wet, but not dripping.
    3 – This part is usable, but not pretty. It may compromise the efficiency of the system, such as a worn suspension part, or clearly show the body of the car needs attention. Think of a beater car or winter driver. It starts and runs but many people would not install this used part unless it just kept the car on the road or they were desperate. Seals may be dripping. Plastic parts may have cracks, gouges or missing mounting tabs.
    2 – On the car these parts are still functioning but would almost never be used as a replacement part unless exceptionally rare or valuable (or free.) safety is becoming a concern. Replacement is in the near future. Rust is coming close to perforating the panel and dents are noted but could be “popped out.”
    1 – a worn out part that is becoming unsafe or very unattractive. It will not pass inspection. It may still be functioning but long trips are unadvisable. Replacement is imminent. This part is suitable for a core or full refurbishment by a skilled restorer. Body panels are visibly dented and rusted areas will need new metal and filler.
    0 – unusable as is, some of the pieces of the part may still have use especially the nonmoving parts. It may not be able to be restored without serious effort. This is likely scrap unless it is a very rare and valuable part. A true professional will need to weld, machine, or hand work the part to make it usable again. For example a chrome piece will need to be rechromed, a rim will need to be straightened or welded, a mechanical part will need all new seals and bearings pressed in, or a seat will need new foam and cover.
    Note – the numbers of this guide are not intended to correspond to percentage changes in value. For example a New or #10 part might be worth several times what a #8 or #9 part is if it is going on a high dollar show quality car. Whereas an rare alloy wheel worth $500 in #8 form may be worth $400 in #2 form if a $100 buff and repaint brings it to #8 quality.
    Let me know what you think…. Please be thoughtful and respectful, but improvement is welcomed.
    CB


    Last edited by cyborgben; 03-15-2011, 07:08 AM.
  • JGood
    R3V OG
    • Jan 2004
    • 7959

    #2
    what
    85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
    e30 restoration and V8 swap
    24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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    • der affe
      Moderator
      Technical
      • Dec 2005
      • 8452

      #3
      Originally posted by cyborgben
      i searched the web and couldn't find one so we can call it the cb system in you like it.... Actually you can call it that if you don't... I will own up to it either way!
      cock-n-balls system?
      seien Sie größer, als Sie erscheinen


      Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

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      • cyborgben
        Noobie
        • Feb 2011
        • 35

        #4
        oops

        you guys are merciless. i posted the original without the pasted system due to a keystroke error.... the original is fixed!

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        • movementality
          Advanced Member
          • Oct 2008
          • 173

          #5
          i kinda think it's broken down too much, why not the camera rating system like
          EX+, EX -, VG, G, Acceptable, For parts or repair

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          • ÜberslowETA
            Advanced Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 190

            #6
            I commend your efforts for attempting to provide something useful to R3V.

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            • Lof8
              R3VLimited
              • Oct 2006
              • 2827

              #7
              or you can just post some pictures and let the buyer decide it's condition.
              S50'd

              Originally posted by TDE30
              What is this faggy shit I have happened upon?
              Originally posted by slammin.e28
              I can always live in a M3. Can't M3 a house.

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              • cyborgben
                Noobie
                • Feb 2011
                • 35

                #8
                i see your point. 6 steps rather than my 12.... i thought that some people might really like the extra divisions for example an 8, 9, 10, and new part on my system may have very different prices, but they would probably all rate EX+ on your system....
                oh, ps, what is the camera rating system?

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                • cyborgben
                  Noobie
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 35

                  #9
                  lof8 - i just think that we are not all great photographers with high res cameras and huge flat screen monitors. Certainly a photo can be misleading. i have a few pics of my car where i looks flawless but in real life is not....
                  thanks for the input

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                  • xwill112x
                    Θέλησα έναν τίτλο συνήθειας, απορροφώ για να είμ&#
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 4236

                    #10
                    you post pics, if item looks like shit, it probly wont sell...if looks good, it will probably sell, if item looks good, but it is actually shit and sells for good price, an angry r3v mob with pitch forks and torches will get said funds returned.
                    sigpic

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                    • cyborgben
                      Noobie
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 35

                      #11
                      hmmm.

                      so if i take a really good (but unphotoshoped) picture and it sells, one person gets ripped off, and i get attacked with pitchforks? i think my idea is a little better than that....

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                      • tonywonder
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 1688

                        #12
                        thats why you are a noob. u will soon realize your idea is not better.

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                        • EN318isPDX
                          R3V Elite
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 4373

                          #13
                          Why is this is the for sale area? I see nothing for sale

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                          • ÜberslowETA
                            Advanced Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 190

                            #14
                            Originally posted by EN318isPDX
                            Why is this is the for sale area? I see nothing for sale
                            LOL you guys are brutal!

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                            • cyborgben
                              Noobie
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 35

                              #15
                              well this isn't going so swell...

                              Ok, it seems you dont like this. i will just go back to looking at low res pics of parts sprayed with armour all with the condition described as "good." i was really trying to help....

                              I am a noob here because sometimes these large forums are harsh and full of people who are gladly willing to share all their opinions and i have resisted offering my opinion much.... Since i currently own 6 BMW's, 5 e30s (not claiming they are all perfect..) and owned my first german car in 1984 i do not consider myself a noob to bmws, or forums for that matter.

                              i am going to refrain from posting in this thread for a few days and see what the consensus is. if nobody likes it i will let it fade into internet oblivion.

                              oh, and the reason it is on here is because everyone is either buying or selling and is aware of the quality issues buyers and sellers face....

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