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  • Edirtyy808
    Wrencher
    • Apr 2012
    • 297

    #16
    what if i got the JOM coilover setup, and want to lay frame, would this work??

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    • e30shmobberr
      E30 Mastermind
      • Mar 2010
      • 1934

      #17
      ive done the strut shortening to my car personally, great thing to do people! i dod an 1in tho

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      RIP 1987 BMW 325is - S50'd ZF 6-speed, flared, bagged

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      • F34R
        sLaughter
        • May 2009
        • 12385

        #18
        Originally posted by Edirtyy808
        what if i got the JOM coilover setup, and want to lay frame, would this work??
        JOM coils is a great way to do it wrong. I hear their inserts blow out if you go too low.

        Do it right the first time and buy Koni sport inserts and shocks. Ground Control conversion and that is all you need. Suspension is not the area to go cheap IMO.

        JOM designed the front coil, stock up top and a 2.5ID bottom coil for the adjuster. I would say yes it would work... BUT They also use a stock length insert, so you would have to switch to some thing shorter to make use of the cut.

        JOM is cheap and will get you kinda low. You will have blown out inserts before you know it. Do it right the first time, sure it cost more...but that is because you will pretty much be installing a suspension and forgetting about it for a long time.

        Please keep JOM chatter out of here anyone that reads this. I have installed the JOM for a local VW owner, rode like cheap shit. He replaced it for B&G RS2 coils. Yes the will lower you, but not with a nice firm controlled ride. They are not designed for track use, or going stupid low. They are a cheap way to get lower than stock.

        So, call up GC and get the conversion kit. Get Koni sport inserts or some other shorter insert that will work. I will mod your housing and you will be set.
        Last edited by F34R; 09-20-2012, 06:28 AM.
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        • ToPLeSS(e30)FeinD
          R3VLimited
          • Jul 2011
          • 2813

          #19
          this is really cool, the market for these is expanding at an ever so exponential rate. and with the options in suspensions nowadays, the need is increasing quite a bit. would like to see some final products. (LBV)
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          • F34R
            sLaughter
            • May 2009
            • 12385

            #20
            Originally posted by ToPLeSS(e30)FeinD
            this is really cool, the market for these is expanding at an ever so exponential rate. and with the options in suspensions nowadays, the need is increasing quite a bit. would like to see some final products. (LBV)
            Final products? I posted working footage of them and finished pictures of two sets...you must have missed all that.

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            • DatUtahGuy
              No R3VLimiter
              • Jan 2007
              • 3146

              #21
              Me and Taylor were just talking about this the other day...
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              • ak-
                R3V OG
                • May 2009
                • 12422

                #22
                Originally posted by Vivek
                I'm gonna have 5" front springs so it'll go fucking low. If I get iX billies and shorten it 3" I'll probably be able to set my pan on the ground. Would you also be able to cut off the stupid brake warmer things?
                This is beyond stupid.

                If you cut 3" and use 5" springs, even at the highest collar setting, your shock is still going to bottomed out static and your wheels will be pressed up into the fenders.

                1991 325iS turbo

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                • Vivek
                  attention whore/retard/bitch
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 6167

                  #23
                  Originally posted by ak-
                  This is beyond stupid.

                  If you cut 3" and use 5" springs, even at the highest collar setting, your shock is still going to bottomed out static and your wheels will be pressed up into the fenders.
                  Dude I was joking. I said in my next post that I'd only go about an inch to stay off the bump stops.
                  The first car I ever rode in was an e30

                  Originally posted by Cabriolet
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                  • psigti
                    Wrencher
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 290

                    #24
                    Not sure if I'm reading this right so I apologize. You have a set of reinforced, shortend tubes I can buy from you for 200.00 shipped? If so. Where do I paypal?

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                    • acolella76
                      R3VLimited
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 2950

                      #25
                      Ygpm
                      -Alex

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                      • knuklehead92
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 732

                        #26
                        do you still have those strut housings in stock?
                        Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

                        Trust me it stock :yawn:

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                        • md-va
                          Advanced Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 151

                          #27
                          Very nice service! I'm sure I'll be hitting you up this winter when i get ready to start my suspension build.
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                          • E30SPDFRK
                            Moderator
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 5689

                            #28
                            Originally posted by F34R
                            I cut out 1" and laid my pan on the ground with 1/4 left to my collar to spin down on.
                            Nice service you are offering to people here, but the above is false and is just going to confuse people. There is no way the car was on the ground with only 1" sectioned unless you were running a 20" tire. But you said you are running 215/40's, which bottom out in the wheel well when there's still an inch to the ground.

                            I'm not calling you out just for the hell of it, I just hate when you try to research something and you get tons of conflicting information because people make inflated claims.


                            1" is good if you're mildly low and just want to get some travel back.
                            1.5" if you're looking to tuck some tire
                            2" if you really want to slam it(all the way up is all the way down on stock housings)
                            stiff 5" springs if you want to actually put the car on the ground and drive it.


                            Once again though, good idea and service for the community. It's a hard thing to get done if you don't have a welder or mechanical skill.
                            Byron
                            Leichtbau

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                            • JGood
                              R3V OG
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 7959

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Vivek
                              Dude I was joking. I said in my next post that I'd only go about an inch to stay off the bump stops.

                              Staying off the bump stops has nothing to do with how much you shorten your shocks. Actually, it has everything to do with it, but in the opposite way you are thinking.

                              The whole point of shortening housings is to be able to crank your coilovers down, and still allow shock travel. For instance, you have your adjusters set at 1/2 way. You want your ride height the same, but you want an extra inch of shock travel because you are bottoming out the shocks. So you cut the housings 1", then crank your coilover adjuster up 1". Your ride height will be the same, but you've gained 1" of shock travel. Or, you can leave the adjusters where they were, and your car will be 1" lower, and you will have the same shock travel as you previously had.

                              So really, the more you cut the housings, the more shock travel you have, at any given ride height.


                              An example, although my car is way different due to my v8 swap requiring 1" subframe spacers which raise the front of the body relative to the LCA's, so don't try to duplicate my setup:

                              I cut my housings 1", and installed 325ix inserts along with a ~3" spacer. I cranked my adjusters down about 1/2 way, and the ride height is exactly where I want it. But, I'm bottoming out the shocks. I have 6" springs.

                              My plan is to cut another 1" out of the housings, and buy 7" springs. This will keep the ride height the same if I don't move the adjuster position, but will give me 1" more shock travel.
                              85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                              e30 restoration and V8 swap
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                              • F34R
                                sLaughter
                                • May 2009
                                • 12385

                                #30
                                Originally posted by E30SPDFRK
                                Nice service you are offering to people here, but the above is false and is just going to confuse people. There is no way the car was on the ground with only 1" sectioned unless you were running a 20" tire. But you said you are running 215/40's, which bottom out in the wheel well when there's still an inch to the ground.

                                I'm not calling you out just for the hell of it, I just hate when you try to research something and you get tons of conflicting information because people make inflated claims.


                                1" is good if you're mildly low and just want to get some travel back.
                                1.5" if you're looking to tuck some tire
                                2" if you really want to slam it(all the way up is all the way down on stock housings)
                                stiff 5" springs if you want to actually put the car on the ground and drive it.


                                Once again though, good idea and service for the community. It's a hard thing to get done if you don't have a welder or mechanical skill.
                                I was using 14" tires when I was bottoming out the pan. I never tried with my 17" wheels, they would not clear the flare lips with the et3. I should have been more clear, my bad. I had MAYBE 1/4 till the tread was touching the inner well. It was not drive able AT ALL.

                                And FrankM and my friend Chris all were there when the car beached on the driveway.

                                If you look at how I design the adjuster collar to allow the screw nut to go over it. Allows you to go down more vs the GC provided perches.
                                Last edited by F34R; 09-26-2012, 02:52 PM.
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