Thats a bavauto header, not stahl, and its nothing like the ebay headers you have either. Do you think im stupid?
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either that or you cant google. please enter bavauto Stahl header into google image......Originally posted by nando View Post
but to make sure you brain doesnt explode with what i wrote there :
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Uh, yeah. Are you blind? They arent the same. Not to mention it says "bavarian autosport" right in the picture.
Its still not the ssame as your header, which IS an ebay header. It's really damn funny that you are defending it when your own pics give it away.Comment
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the "shorty" header is slightly different (it has more curve out and then down) where as the stahl design goes straight down (not really sure how they manage that).Originally posted by nando View Post
but the design principle is the same. if you look at the "RD" headers they use a different approach to make them equal length.Comment
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It doesnt matter (even though they are not the same at ALL). Your header is straight off ebay. Anyone whos been around will see this.
I dont think I need to go further than this. You are either really ignorant, or straight up lying. Either way, the wolves will get you.Comment
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doubtful. this venture will be succesful because we guarantee fit and quality at a competitive price. Dont worry we will even sell you a set if you be nice.Originally posted by nando View PostComment
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It will be successful because they already sell on ebay for $150 shipped
But its nothing like you original claims. And I have real RD headers, so no thanks. ;)Last edited by nando; 05-11-2011, 07:16 PM.Comment
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I have a set of the bavauto headers on my blown m20. I think its hilarious too, that you are posting no less than THREE completely different designs in an attempt to back peddle your stahl replica claim. Sorry, fail. The only similarity between them is that they are all considered long tube headers.Comment
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The supersprint copies he has (ebay) are really more of a mid length, somwhere around 24" primaries. Stahl are something like 30-36".
The funny thing is there are bavauto copies on Ebay already, but they have one peice flanges as is.Comment
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aaaaaand here is a link to the ebay ad for the bav auto copies
you are just reselling the same ebay headers that i have on my own car.
yes they do fit, after i planed the flanges flat, did some bending on the cross over pipe and dimpled the body a bit because they came too close to the floor board.
the down side to the stahls are that the lower tube hangs down and tends to scrape even on a stock height car.
another negative to them is that they are only available in 1 1/2" primaries. that will work out good on a stock motor, but with many mods, it is really too small. call and talk to stahl, they will tell you the same thing.
you sir are just reselling the same ebay header and MMMAAAAABEEE adding one piece flanges.
you would have been better off getting a good deal on the bav auto copies, then reselling them for $200Last edited by der affe; 05-12-2011, 12:00 AM.seien Sie größer, als Sie erscheinen
Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.Comment
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Originally posted by MaksV View Post
No I have quoted below exactly what you said and set in bold your exact words pertaining to the subject. And for reference this is post #144 on 2/4/2011 You can go back through this thread and check if you want. It's on page 10.
It says right there in bold and underline "They have sent us a prototype with single flanges"Originally posted by MaksV View Post
And BTW, they have sent you the standard ebay header.
This has the exact same dimensions, exact same bends, and exact same x-pipe with the 02 sensor bung towards the center of the car. I would be willing to bet it's the same thin pipe everyone complains about too... Only thing different about yours is going to be the flange. And if the Chinese dudes can't keep the small single flanges flat, then how are they gonna keep a large flange from warping? The prototype might be perfect but when they start welding three pipes to one piece of metal all at once and warp that flange all to hell what happens? The mass produced copy has a flange that looks decent but doesn't seal right... And now instead of paying $150, they're paying $250 for thicker flanges that still don't seal.Comment
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Fail I owned this pieces of shit and fail
"Hard Work Pays Off"
1991-bmw 325i (R3vvd)
1990- 325 (mpowa)(GC)(track)(beast)
1988- 528e (daily driven when track car broken)Comment
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Ouch man, just look at all these customers you lost.
It's kind of hard to fool the e30 community.
1.mvrk10256, m20 headers, no coat.
2.structured, m20 headers, coat ?
3.jaycheetwood, m20, no coat.
4. blocke, m20 headers, possibly with coat-depending on how much more $
5.Shangsta m20 headers, no coat
6.jasonsnoddy, m20, no coat
7.gobig_us, m20, no coat
8.bpmack16, m20, coated (color?)
9.325ix, m20, coat?
10. Joonsup, m20, no coat
11. CabbE30, m20, no coat
12. XvillainousX
13.dkmr, m20, non coated
14. BigTe30, m20, no coating
15.maximus_pr m20 ,no coat
16. TrentW, no coat
17. E30huh, no coat
18. txtorquemade, m20 no coating
19. 88superetabd , m20 no coat (unless coating is cheap)
20. e304lyfe
21. streichholzschächtelchen coated
22. zm blue devil m20 non coated
23. zm blue devil m42 non coated
24. MrSlacker, m20, coating depending on cost
25: woodisgood. M20
26:thornado327i: M20 / coated
27 NC325iC - m20 coated
28. Overlord475 - m20 coating depending on cost
29. Peaveybassist - m20 no coat
30. InuFaye-m20 coating depending on cost.
31. richardkeith97 - m20 coating depending on cost
32. handysmurf59 - m20 coating depending on cost.
33. Schtozo - m20, coating depends on cost
34. DrJosh - M20, coating depends on cost
35. wh00sh - M20, coating depends on cost
36. 2slowe30-M20 no coating
37. RagtopE30-M20 no coating
38. pilotskillse30-M20 coating
39. bwells m20 coated
40. murcielago543 M20 no coating
41. jayuuey M20 no coating
42. MitchD1283 M20 Coated pending final price.
43. Paradox M20 coated - subject to pictures and price
44. mkcman17
45. abused
1991 325iS turbo
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so far i havnt tricked anyone. What I am delivering is the same thing as I promised from the beginning. at first I assume its ignorance, but now I understand you just cant read.
There is no such thing as an Ebay header. Ebay does not produce anything. there are companies that sell things on there.
thats point one, hopefully you are still fallowing me.
while there are many different ways/methodologies behind header design, we went with a simple equal length design. We then made sure they were made to our specifications of thickness, and quality of metal.
That said buying things of "ebay" is a crapshoot - some things a successful others less so. In most cases i use ebay to find companies worth dealing with (F1 Clutch for instance) and then deal directly with them.
we are offering a header that will fit, will last, and will make power. they will come with hardware, and they will include a PDF that details how to install them with a minimum of headache.
All that said - if you continue to claim they are just "ebay" headers you are simply ignorant, or stupid.Comment
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No, you didn't trick anyone. I knew this was going to be a disaster from the beginning.
You said you were having a prototype made, and that prototype was going to be copied. Isn't it funny that your "prototype" is EXACTLY the same as the headers on ebay now? How can you sit there and say, with a straight face, that it isnt?
You didn't design anything. You bought a header off ebay, a flange off White325is, and then were going to try to pass it off as a "new" header design under a group buy.Comment
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