I've put about 80,000 miles on IE trailing arm/subframe bushings without any problems.. *shrug*
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perhaps its user error..did you damage the bushings at all installing them?
why would you not keep the part to send back to the company if it was defective. think about it, if someone called you claiming that something you sold them broke and that you had to send them replacements.. but they had nothing to show you. would you send them replacements? based on someones word..? they're a company. they sell lots of products, every single day.
you sound like you've just jumped on the "i hate ie cause its the cool internet thing" bandwagon. i've had countless parts from them on my own personal cars, seen a whole lot of track time and abuse and never once had an issue with the products.
you need to be reasonable when you're making a warranty claim, dont expect to be able to piss and moan and have companies bend over backwards for you.
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It only takes one idiot to make a decent company look bad. I have engine mounts and rear shock mounts from IE. I'll admit while they aren't the finest of parts, they are great quality for the price.
And getting 30k out of some aftermarket performance oriented bushings sounds okay to me. OEM bushings generally begin to wear at about 50k, give or take.
Finally, if you are working with a company, however incooperative, on an ongoing claim like this, why would you get rid of the "evidence"? It may have just been a noob mistake, but in the future I hope you hang on to any trouble parts until you get your replacements.Claus Luthe is my hero.
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I have seen a set of IE bushings installed by a BMW mechanic and they went bad within a year. Upon removal of said bushings, you could see that there were a lot of air bubbles in the bushings, and when compared to an AKG, there was no question as to which is a better product. I would bet that if you took durometer readings from multiple batches of each manufacturer, there would be very little variance with the AKG and a whole lot with IE because of the inconsistency of the product. Plus, AKG is so great to work with and they are super customer friendly. Survey the racing guys and I think they would say the same thing.
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Guys, its inherent in the material, no matter what manufacturer it comes from.
If you install race parts on your car, you get to have race car maintenance schedules. Simple as that. If you want a streetable bushing, go with powerflex. Their durometer rating is low enough to still maintain compliance that will simply compress/expand the material, not crack it.
I have AKG bushings, and they are flexing after 2 years. The only non-oem bushing I have not had to replace in 6 years/100k were the excellent RTRS subframe bushings.
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Guys, its inherent in the material, no matter what manufacturer it comes from.
If you install race parts on your car, you get to have race car maintenance schedules. Simple as that. If you want a streetable bushing, go with powerflex. Their durometer rating is low enough to still maintain compliance that will simply compress/expand the material, not crack it.
I have AKG bushings, and they are flexing after 2 years. The only non-oem bushing I have not had to replace in 6 years/100k were the excellent RTRS subframe bushings.
amen to that. I work on race cars for a living. Things wear, break, get slop in them all the time.Comment
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The amount of conflicting info around here is mind boggling.M119 M42 M62 S52 S62Comment
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BMP Design sells bushings made by Suspension Techniques... They are the next best thing to PowerFlex and priced very well.
IE used to have amazing TABs, they were one piece bushing design, and I absolutely loved them. IE seems to have ups and downs, though. I don't trust companies that sell performance parts of inconsistent quality...Comment
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I have ST sway bars and the bushings are oxidizing and flaking on the exterior after two years. I have Bav Auto RTAB and they are OK.Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.
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i dont think you guys give enough attention to what the first guy said -
he got poor service, wrong attitude, and a matter that could have been easily solved ended in a "IE trash" post here.
i just got my AKG after reading this thread as well as another comparing thread with installation review about both products (i do not recall if it was here or in E30T.com)Comment
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IE has good stuff and bad stuff. Unfortunately it's hard to know what you're going to end up with..Comment
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On my last car I ran urethane EVERYTHING from IE for well over 40k miles. I drove across country multiple times and taken car to a few Auto-Xs. If that car didn't get totaled, I'd still be riding on them.
But that doesn't mean quality stayed the same. I got all my parts back when Carr was pushing IE product, and that seems to be a long long time ago.
I still order parts from Jeff. At his prices, sometimes it's the only way to go.Comment
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