needle bearing roller rockers for m20 anyone?

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  • VacMan
    R3VLimited
    • Apr 2007
    • 2405

    #91
    Originally posted by Lof8
    not if they've read your other thread.


    1987 E30 cabrio | Bumper swap | H&R Sport | Koni Yellow | Eibach Sways | BavAuto strut bar | Cardinal seats
    MTech2 wheel | Husco Armrest | Smoked Hella Smileys | 5k HID | Stromung | RS003
    | Shadowline | Amber Fogs | Too much else to list



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    • accident
      R3V OG
      • Sep 2008
      • 7303

      #92
      Originally posted by VacMan

      Originally posted by ROLLingKING
      i have a bronzit and plan on making it look sweet.
      Originally posted by slammin.e28
      Moral of this story?

      If you drive your e30 on stairs, you're gonna have a bad time.

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      • m20freak
        Noobie
        • May 2011
        • 6

        #93
        sorry to drag up an old thread but with all you knockers would just leav it alone if you havnt got anything constructive to add to someone wanting to have a worthy technical discussion about performance then shut the f** up

        you might find the boy a bit abrasive but rockers are the biggest problem with these engines, i have powerful atmo m20 race engine its not a big stroker its a 2.7 and makes over 245Hp at the wheels and I could fill pages and pages about all the problems i have had with the rockers, i have tried several aftermarket and or billet rockers, oils additives cams and spring combinations and it all comes down to the same thing, to go over about 7600 rpm the loads over the tip of the cam lobe get too high to maintain oil film its just too thin after centrifugal force has cleaned most of it off the cam and the rocker pad starts to chop out verry prematurely taking the cam with it, the only true solution is a roller follower, this is something i have also been developing for some time, i have all the geometry information and have a cam grinder willing to develop the cam profile but I still need someone to make the rockers.
        sigpic245Hp at the wheels
        7800 rpm M20 2.7 atmo
        full build is here http//e21jps.webs.com

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ2SDsIjeZA

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOdPbErYlho

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        • JTapper
          E30 Modder
          • Sep 2009
          • 847

          #94
          Originally posted by m20freak
          sorry to drag up an old thread but with all you knockers would just leav it alone if you havnt got anything constructive to add to someone wanting to have a worthy technical discussion about performance then shut the f** up

          you might find the boy a bit abrasive but rockers are the biggest problem with these engines, i have powerful atmo m20 race engine its not a big stroker its a 2.7 and makes over 245Hp at the wheels and I could fill pages and pages about all the problems i have had with the rockers, i have tried several aftermarket and or billet rockers, oils additives cams and spring combinations and it all comes down to the same thing, to go over about 7600 rpm the loads over the tip of the cam lobe get too high to maintain oil film its just too thin after centrifugal force has cleaned most of it off the cam and the rocker pad starts to chop out verry prematurely taking the cam with it, the only true solution is a roller follower, this is something i have also been developing for some time, i have all the geometry information and have a cam grinder willing to develop the cam profile but I still need someone to make the rockers.
          hahahahahaha. Shut the fuck up.

          Obviously you haven't seen this kid's E34 turbo build thread. He doesn't even have an E30.

          sigpic
          Turbo Cabrio project: http://eurowerks.org/showthread.php?t=19677

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          • LJ851
            R3V OG
            • Nov 2010
            • 7918

            #95
            Originally posted by m20freak
            sorry to drag up an old thread but with all you knockers would just leav it alone if you havnt got anything constructive to add to someone wanting to have a worthy technical discussion about performance then shut the f** up

            you might find the boy a bit abrasive but rockers are the biggest problem with these engines, i have powerful atmo m20 race engine its not a big stroker its a 2.7 and makes over 245Hp at the wheels and I could fill pages and pages about all the problems i have had with the rockers, i have tried several aftermarket and or billet rockers, oils additives cams and spring combinations and it all comes down to the same thing, to go over about 7600 rpm the loads over the tip of the cam lobe get too high to maintain oil film its just too thin after centrifugal force has cleaned most of it off the cam and the rocker pad starts to chop out verry prematurely taking the cam with it, the only true solution is a roller follower, this is something i have also been developing for some time, i have all the geometry information and have a cam grinder willing to develop the cam profile but I still need someone to make the rockers.
            First Post! Welcome to r3v.
            Post your dyno chart.
            Lorin


            Originally posted by slammin.e28
            The M30 is God's engine.

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            • frankenbeemer
              R3VLimited
              • Sep 2009
              • 2260

              #96
              What a thread you picked to champion your development of roller rockers for the m20. If you are serious, you may want to start a new thread that doesn't have the stigma associated with this one. Welcome to r3v!
              sigpic
              Originally posted by JinormusJ
              Don't buy an e30

              They're stupid
              1989 325is Raged on then sold.
              1988 325 SETA 2DR Beaten to death, then parted.
              1988 325 SETA 4DR Parted.
              1990 325i Cabrio Daily'd, then stored 2 yrs ago.

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              • m20freak
                Noobie
                • May 2011
                • 6

                #97
                Originally posted by JTapper
                hahahahahaha. Shut the fuck up.

                Obviously you haven't seen this kid's E34 turbo build thread. He doesn't even have an E30.

                http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=146135

                said it before if you havnt got anything constructive to say then piss off your worse than the pimple face kid one thing i hate more than a dreamer is a blow arse!!.... so what have you built and how much power does it make??

                dyno sheet for my engine is attached, this was with the gorilla cam it made 198Kw which is more top end than now but its actually faster around the circuit with the smaller cam and better midrange torque
                Attached Files
                sigpic245Hp at the wheels
                7800 rpm M20 2.7 atmo
                full build is here http//e21jps.webs.com

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ2SDsIjeZA

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOdPbErYlho

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                • m20freak
                  Noobie
                  • May 2011
                  • 6

                  #98
                  PS... yes dont worry new thread will be started as soon as we have some actual progress worth talking about
                  sigpic245Hp at the wheels
                  7800 rpm M20 2.7 atmo
                  full build is here http//e21jps.webs.com

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ2SDsIjeZA

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOdPbErYlho

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                  • JasonC
                    Site Manager
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 14451

                    #99
                    Originally posted by m20freak
                    PS... yes dont worry new thread will be started as soon as we have some actual progress worth talking about
                    Yes, that would be a good idea. Cause people remember the ass hat of an OP the guy was that made this thread. And i'm sure no one is wanting to be connected with this. So if you're serious about these, post up a new thread so this guys legacy wont be shadowing your project.

                    1992 BMW 325iC
                    1978 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
                    1965 Chevrolet Corvair Monza 140hp

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                    • z31maniac
                      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 17566

                      #100
                      266whp, out of a 2.7 M20?
                      Need parts now? Need them cheap? steve@blunttech.com
                      Chief Sales Officer, Midwest Division—Blunt Tech Industries

                      www.gutenparts.com
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                      • nando
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 34827

                        #101
                        Thats gotta be bhp, most likely reverse calculated from whp using a 20% correction factor, or hes spinning it to 9k..
                        Build thread

                        Bimmerlabs

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                        • InuFaye
                          R3VLimited
                          • May 2010
                          • 2221

                          #102
                          its in australia. its spinning backwards.
                          1986 Plymouth Horizon. Base.

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                          • dashboardmonkey
                            FUCK YOUR WAFFLES
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 6158

                            #103
                            the sheet says 8 cylinders.....whats up with that?
                            -Andy

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                            • InuFaye
                              R3VLimited
                              • May 2010
                              • 2221

                              #104
                              australia has 2 extra cylinders.
                              1986 Plymouth Horizon. Base.

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