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  • e30Matt
    R3V Elite
    • Dec 2003
    • 5077

    #31
    Originally posted by Jordan
    There is nothing personal about it Matt, don't get confused. I think Mel is a sack of shit for dodging all the complains he has had against him for the valance and wheels... and everyone on the forum deserves to know he pushes subpar products out the door then deny's they are his!
    You make it personal by saying that right there.

    At any rate, you can't go on tirades about things like this and turn around and give people shit (the Apexcone HID GB thread being a grand example) for doing the exact same thing.

    Not trying to raise hell, just making a point.

    "See, we're adding a little something to this month's sales contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anyone wanna see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired."

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    • psloan
      R3V OG
      • Nov 2006
      • 9815

      #32
      Originally posted by e30Matt
      You make it personal by saying that right there.

      At any rate, you can't go on tirades about things like this and turn around and give people shit (the Apexcone HID GB thread being a grand example) for doing the exact same thing.

      Not trying to raise hell, just making a point.
      It's pretty clear there's a problem with the quality of the parts coming out of this place. I'd rather someone say it than no one.
      "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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      • e30Matt
        R3V Elite
        • Dec 2003
        • 5077

        #33
        Originally posted by psloan
        It's pretty clear there's a problem with the quality of the parts coming out of this place. I'd rather someone say it than no one.
        Never said there wasn't, just that it could be dealt with in a much more professional manner.

        "See, we're adding a little something to this month's sales contest. As you all know, first prize is a Cadillac Eldorado. Anyone wanna see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired."

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        • Jordan
          R3V OG
          • Oct 2003
          • 12907

          #34
          If by that you mean me bashing the guy that registered on the forum to say Apexcone was crap, and provided zero proof, when hundreds of people have zero problems with the kits... I can see the point just find you a bit off base.

          I've provided proof in the form of photos that the valance (at very least) AMS sells is warped from the mold.

          AMS's best argument is "Must be someone elses product" or "Needs professional installation" and has not provided any proof beyond saying he looked at one of his in stock valances and claiming it wasn't warped.

          The TREND we are seeing here with Mel being called out on subpar products, and him denying the facts is what makes him a sack of shit. As with the products in question.. I've just pointed it out. Yes it also happens to be my opinion on the matter. Lets not get off topic though :)


          Now on a slightly different note, about 2 weeks ago when all this crap started I was about to spend $1100 ordering some products from AMS (Hella smoked ellipsoids, MHW tails/turns, plate filler, etc) but with the wheel ordeal and now this.. I'd be nuts to give Mel a penny. I'd just assume order from any other vendor even if it costs me slightly more out of pocket knowing I'm not supporting someone like Mel.
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          • BMWE34M5
            R3V Elite
            • May 2004
            • 4406

            #35
            Yes-the trend is that Jordan has a problem with AMS because he has a friend that makes the M Tech 2 kits that he has been recommending.
            He tries to find every opportunity to badmouth AMS.

            The quality of both the Kopi wheels and Kopi M Tech 2 kits we sell have not changed over the 5 years we have been selling them.
            The only difference is the hub design of the 4 lug Kopi wheel.
            This does not change the integrity or quality of the wheel.
            This is only noticable with the center cap removed.
            Other than that, both items are as we have always sold them with absolutely no complaints.


            Originally posted by psloan
            Reading this thread and the kopi wheel thread has been pretty informative. I considered both the kopis and this mt2 kit - and let's just say there's a trend in the problems that are occurring.
            Mel Abrahams
            Abrahams Motorsport
            www.abrahamsmotorsport.com
            E-mail:sales@abrahamsmotorsport.com
            PayPal to:
            order@abrahamsmotorsport.com
            If you do not have a PayPal account, please call our office.
            Buy with confidence, serving the E30 community for over 14 years
            Phone:727-992-0288
            Fax:727-868-6373

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            • Jordan
              R3V OG
              • Oct 2003
              • 12907

              #36
              I'm sorry Mel, do you see anywhere in this thread where I have recommended another companies Replicatech-II kits over yours? Nope.

              Although fact of the matter is they do make a replica kit leaps and bounds better quality then the stuff you sell.
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              • psloan
                R3V OG
                • Nov 2006
                • 9815

                #37
                Originally posted by BMWE34M5
                Yes-the trend is that Jordan has a problem with AMS because he has a friend that makes the M Tech 2 kits that he has been recommending.
                He tries to find every opportunity to badmouth AMS.

                The quality of both the Kopi wheels and Kopi M Tech 2 kits we sell have not changed over the 5 years we have been selling them.
                The only difference is the hub design of the 4 lug Kopi wheel.
                This does not change the integrity or quality of the wheel.
                This is only noticable with the center cap removed.
                Other than that, both items are as we have always sold them with absolutely no complaints.
                Can I get a shot of that gray car you posted but at the angle jordan posted? That should clear things up nicely.

                Also, I thought it was determined that the kopis (with the exception of the 16s) are no longer hubcentric?

                Do you have plans to get the hub situation sorted out? I for one would run these with no caps - and do not want the 5 lug indentations. the price is fair on both counts if we can get the issues ironed out.
                "We praise or find fault, depending on which of the two provides more opportunity for our powers of judgement to shine."

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                • delatlanta1281
                  Dart Master
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 10317

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Jordan

                  denying the facts is what makes him a sack of shit
                  This may be what Matt is speaking to.
                  AMS, is there any way to answer my question? I am interested in the S/O kit for my car, and would like to clarify. I have a professional installer who built hot rods, but I want to be sure. Also if I were to get this installed by said professional and the warp was there, what exactly would you do to help me recoup time and money?
                  Yours truly,
                  Rich
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                  you kids get off my lawn.....

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                  • BMWE34M5
                    R3V Elite
                    • May 2004
                    • 4406

                    #39
                    Those are the only photos I have of that car.
                    Regarding the Kopi wheels-I am waiting for the factory to re-open next week to address the issue of the hub change on the 17" Kopi wheels.


                    Originally posted by psloan
                    Can I get a shot of that gray car you posted but at the angle jordan posted? That should clear things up nicely.

                    Also, I thought it was determined that the kopis (with the exception of the 16s) are no longer hubcentric?

                    Do you have plans to get the hub situation sorted out? I for one would run these with no caps - and do not want the 5 lug indentations. the price is fair on both counts if we can get the issues ironed out.
                    Mel Abrahams
                    Abrahams Motorsport
                    www.abrahamsmotorsport.com
                    E-mail:sales@abrahamsmotorsport.com
                    PayPal to:
                    order@abrahamsmotorsport.com
                    If you do not have a PayPal account, please call our office.
                    Buy with confidence, serving the E30 community for over 14 years
                    Phone:727-992-0288
                    Fax:727-868-6373

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                    • BMWE34M5
                      R3V Elite
                      • May 2004
                      • 4406

                      #40
                      Our policy is clear-
                      Any defective item will be exchanged or can be returned for a full refund.

                      Originally posted by delatlanta1281
                      This may be what Matt is speaking to.
                      AMS, is there any way to answer my question? I am interested in the S/O kit for my car, and would like to clarify. I have a professional installer who built hot rods, but I want to be sure. Also if I were to get this installed by said professional and the warp was there, what exactly would you do to help me recoup time and money?
                      Mel Abrahams
                      Abrahams Motorsport
                      www.abrahamsmotorsport.com
                      E-mail:sales@abrahamsmotorsport.com
                      PayPal to:
                      order@abrahamsmotorsport.com
                      If you do not have a PayPal account, please call our office.
                      Buy with confidence, serving the E30 community for over 14 years
                      Phone:727-992-0288
                      Fax:727-868-6373

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                      • Jordan
                        R3V OG
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 12907

                        #41
                        Does "full refund" include 10+ hrs of fruitless professional installation at $50+ an hour?
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                        • BMWE34M5
                          R3V Elite
                          • May 2004
                          • 4406

                          #42
                          Do you really think I am prepared to sell you anything after your personal attacks?



                          Originally posted by Jordan
                          If by that you mean me bashing the guy that registered on the forum to say Apexcone was crap, and provided zero proof, when hundreds of people have zero problems with the kits... I can see the point just find you a bit off base.

                          I've provided proof in the form of photos that the valance (at very least) AMS sells is warped from the mold.

                          AMS's best argument is "Must be someone elses product" or "Needs professional installation" and has not provided any proof beyond saying he looked at one of his in stock valances and claiming it wasn't warped.

                          The TREND we are seeing here with Mel being called out on subpar products, and him denying the facts is what makes him a sack of shit. As with the products in question.. I've just pointed it out. Yes it also happens to be my opinion on the matter. Lets not get off topic though :)


                          Now on a slightly different note, about 2 weeks ago when all this crap started I was about to spend $1100 ordering some products from AMS (Hella smoked ellipsoids, MHW tails/turns, plate filler, etc) but with the wheel ordeal and now this.. I'd be nuts to give Mel a penny. I'd just assume order from any other vendor even if it costs me slightly more out of pocket knowing I'm not supporting someone like Mel.
                          Mel Abrahams
                          Abrahams Motorsport
                          www.abrahamsmotorsport.com
                          E-mail:sales@abrahamsmotorsport.com
                          PayPal to:
                          order@abrahamsmotorsport.com
                          If you do not have a PayPal account, please call our office.
                          Buy with confidence, serving the E30 community for over 14 years
                          Phone:727-992-0288
                          Fax:727-868-6373

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                          • Jordan
                            R3V OG
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 12907

                            #43
                            Originally posted by BMWE34M5
                            Do you really think I am prepared to sell you anything after your personal attacks?
                            If you had any confidence in the products you sell you'd have no problem selling to me. :up: Hell if you were smart you would offer the products I want to me at a discounted rate and hope I'm happy so I can post as such....I however already said that I will be taking my business elsewhere, as I encourage others to do as well. ;)

                            I'm going to let my friend know you offered to give him his money back on the kit though, he may take you up on that. Of course its already painted silver and has a couple cracks in the corners and such, that shouldn't be a problem though. You'll be picking up return freight too right?
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                            • BMWE34M5
                              R3V Elite
                              • May 2004
                              • 4406

                              #44
                              Now I am convinced that not only are you a sicko, you're an idiot as well.

                              Originally posted by Jordan
                              If you had any confidence in the products you sell you'd have no problem selling to me. :up: Hell if you were smart you would offer the products I want to me at a discounted rate and hope I'm happy so I can post as such....I however already said that I will be taking my business elsewhere, as I encourage others to do as well. ;)

                              I'm going to let my friend know you offered to give him his money back on the kit though, he may take you up on that. Of course its already painted silver and has a couple cracks in the corners and such, that shouldn't be a problem though. You'll be picking up return freight too right?
                              Mel Abrahams
                              Abrahams Motorsport
                              www.abrahamsmotorsport.com
                              E-mail:sales@abrahamsmotorsport.com
                              PayPal to:
                              order@abrahamsmotorsport.com
                              If you do not have a PayPal account, please call our office.
                              Buy with confidence, serving the E30 community for over 14 years
                              Phone:727-992-0288
                              Fax:727-868-6373

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                              • Jordan
                                R3V OG
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 12907

                                #45
                                Calling a long time good customer who is disgruntled over recent declines in product quality a sicko and an idiot!! Awesome Mel!

                                Are you going to answer some questions or just call me names?
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