17x8" ET25: Lightweight Track Wheels: APEX ARC-8 HERE NOW!

[PaintPro21]

even im a bit confused there... ohh well someone feeling up to it??? eddy's done it, it works but we need the actual numbers....God knows why..

love ur rims Ed, im looking at trying 255/35/17...note im running TI rear end 5 stud conversion
on 89 325is

keep u posted if it works out...
if u know better pls keep ME posted

sash

You purchased a set of 17x8/17x9 5 lug wheels correct? is this the setup you want to run the 255's on? And was it an E30 m3 or regular E30.

It was a while ago, so I don't remember.

[Bishop]

5 lug swap would indicate non M, and he says its an 89 iS ;)

It sounds like a really cool project, would definitely be interested in pics.

[PaintPro21]

5 lug swap would indicate non M, and he says its an 89 iS ;)

It sounds like a really cool project, would definitely be interested in pics.

I was under the impression that he had two cars.

More importantly, I'm trying to determine what wheel he's asking about since there is an 17x8 et20, 17x9 et42, 17x8 et25

I'm sure he'll clarify

[Bishop]

My mistake ;)

[MR_SAZ]

I was under the impression that he had two cars.

More importantly, I'm trying to determine what wheel he's asking about since there is an 17x8 et20, 17x9 et42, 17x8 et25

I'm sure he'll clarify

Staggered rims for E30 M3 fitment...and yes my car is a 325is 89 model not an E30 M3..I did a 5 stud swap using E30 M3 front struts and 318TI rear subframe swap..
F=17x8 et20
R=17x9 et42

The TI has hubs that extends further than the E30's so im hoping ill get the clearance i need...today was a 5hitty day looks like tomorrow ill be giving it a crack...
I want to get the alignment right....the rear is now camber and toe adjustable..

i really hope those bigger tyres fit...fingers crossed....PS ill be hammering some body work i`m sure!

sash

[rneedham1979]

OK I'll bite. Your confused? Why? Did you misread the question? Since my question is clearly a big deal and not received well for some reason, I will explain. I am having two of my wheels widened. They are in the mail as we speak and they are getting widened 1.5". Since they can only widen the backside of the wheel, I was trying to figure out the distance from the wheel/tire to the inner fender well, shock and control arm so I can determine what spacer I need. Sorry for the confusion and difficult question... I guess I will have too wait until the wheels arrive before buy the spacers. Thanks though.

I am planning on running 255/40/17 star specs on the street and 275/40/17 drag radials at the track and some street.

My rear quarters are going to be professionally widened which will be very subtle in order to keep it the body (looking) as close to stock as possible.

I know some of you may have negative comments about wheel widening and that is fine. I have chosen to go this route in order to squeeze as much tire under my E30 as possible without going with M3 fenders and 1/4's.

For those of you that are "new" or forgot, I will be putting down roughly 500whp and the 225-235 is not going to cut it. The 245 was going to require "almost" as much work to fit properly so I opted to step it up to at least a 255 for DD.

even im a bit confused there... ohh well someone feeling up to it??? eddy's done it, it works but we need the actual numbers....God knows why..

love ur rims Ed, im looking at trying 255/35/17...note im running TI rear end 5 stud conversion
on 89 325is

keep u posted if it works out...
if u know better pls keep ME posted

sash

[MR_SAZ]

OK I'll bite. Your confused? Why? Did you misread the question? Since my question is clearly a big deal and not received well for some reason, I will explain. I am having two of my wheels widened. They are in the mail as we speak and they are getting widened 1.5". Since they can only widen the backside of the wheel, I was trying to figure out the distance from the wheel/tire to the inner fender well, shock and control arm so I can determine what spacer I need. Sorry for the confusion and difficult question... I guess I will have too wait until the wheels arrive before buy the spacers. Thanks though.

I am planning on running 255/40/17 star specs on the street and 275/40/17 drag radials at the track and some street.

My rear quarters are going to be professionally widened which will be very subtle in order to keep it the body (looking) as close to stock as possible.

I know some of you may have negative comments about wheel widening and that is fine. I have chosen to go this route in order to squeeze as much tire under my E30 as possible without going with M3 fenders and 1/4's.

For those of you that are "new" or forgot, I will be putting down roughly 500whp and the 225-235 is not going to cut it. The 245 was going to require "almost" as much work to fit properly so I opted to step it up to at least a 255 for DD.

Im not sure what offsets you ordered but with my setup, having the TI rear end, the hubs extend about an inch either side, so having the ET42's 17x9 gives me that space your talking about... I dont know if it will help much, pending your setup, but Ill have a look at mine and measure the distance for you.

But as a suggestion have you considered using an E28 subframe and re engineering the rear strut towers to give you alittle more space??
something like this http://www.ubersaloons.co.nz/uber3/E28-stuff/Uber3.html or my personal favourite...follow the way of the sweds http://www.new-sweden.com/forum/showthread.php?t=359

How sexy is that last link!!

Trust me we are all here to help, but sometimes the details go along way in getting the answers you seek....you do get alot of weird questions on these forums. But thanks for clearing it up alittle...i hope the above is worth considering....

sash

[rneedham1979]

I have the 4x100 17x8 et25. I will not know anything for certain until I have the wheel/tire mounted on the hub. Once it is, I will determine exactly what size spacer I need to give me "safe" inside clearance. The fender/outside clearance will be taken care of with body work. That said, I am hoping to maximize all of the room in the wheel well in order to minimize the body work.

The wheels arrive at the shop tomorrow. I explained my situation and the owner said he would try to get my wheels in and out as quick as possible. That will allow me to order and mount 235/40/17 and 255/40/17 star specs, and get the car to body/paint guy in January.

I hope to have pictures of the tires/wheels mounted on the car around Christmas.

All that said, I need to find longer wheel studs and the proper lug nuts for the Apex wheels. Does anyone sell them as a complete kit?

Thanks!
Ryan

Im not sure what offsets you ordered but with my setup, having the TI rear end, the hubs extend about an inch either side, so having the ET42's 17x9 gives me that space your talking about... I dont know if it will help much, pending your setup, but Ill have a look at mine and measure the distance for you.

But as a suggestion have you considered using an E28 subframe and re engineering the rear strut towers to give you alittle more space??
something like this http://www.ubersaloons.co.nz/uber3/E28-stuff/Uber3.html or my personal favourite...follow the way of the sweds http://www.new-sweden.com/forum/showthread.php?t=359

How sexy is that last link!!

Trust me we are all here to help, but sometimes the details go along way in getting the answers you seek....you do get alot of weird questions on these forums. But thanks for clearing it up alittle...i hope the above is worth considering....

sash

[MR_SAZ]

I have the 4x100 17x8 et25. I will not know anything for certain until I have the wheel/tire mounted on the hub. Once it is, I will determine exactly what size spacer I need to give me "safe" inside clearance. The fender/outside clearance will be taken care of with body work. That said, I am hoping to maximize all of the room in the wheel well in order to minimize the body work.

The wheels arrive at the shop tomorrow. I explained my situation and the owner said he would try to get my wheels in and out as quick as possible. That will allow me to order and mount 235/40/17 and 255/40/17 star specs, and get the car to body/paint guy in January.

I hope to have pictures of the tires/wheels mounted on the car around Christmas.

All that said, I need to find longer wheel studs and the proper lug nuts for the Apex wheels. Does anyone sell them as a complete kit?

Thanks!
Ryan

I was just looking at the rolling diameters...if a 245/40/17 will fit, a 255/35/17 will...so i going to look for the 35 profile....very hard to find here...
keep u posted

[PaintPro21]

I have the 4x100 17x8 et25. I will not know anything for certain until I have the wheel/tire mounted on the hub. Once it is, I will determine exactly what size spacer I need to give me "safe" inside clearance. The fender/outside clearance will be taken care of with body work. That said, I am hoping to maximize all of the room in the wheel well in order to minimize the body work.

The wheels arrive at the shop tomorrow. I explained my situation and the owner said he would try to get my wheels in and out as quick as possible. That will allow me to order and mount 235/40/17 and 255/40/17 star specs, and get the car to body/paint guy in January.

I hope to have pictures of the tires/wheels mounted on the car around Christmas.

All that said, I need to find longer wheel studs and the proper lug nuts for the Apex wheels. Does anyone sell them as a complete kit?

Thanks!
Ryan

Ryan,

Vorshlag sells quality stud/lug hardware.

I wasn't giving you a hard time when you asked about the measurements. You're doing something that nobody else is ever going to do (widening the wheels), and that's a whole different ball game. If its already been stated that X size tires fit up front with no issue on these wheels, then I'm just wondering why would need the info to verify this if it works.

Seeing your response I understand why you would want to know.. because your setup is completely different from everyone else's and you need data to make it work.

Maybe someone will chime in with numbers, but there are too many variables that could render the data useless for you.

Good luck with that setup, and I hope the widening works out for you. The warranty is obviously void lol

[Mystikal]

I am having two of my wheels widened. They are in the mail as we speak and they are getting widened 1.5". Since they can only widen the backside of the wheel, I was trying to figure out the distance from the wheel/tire to the inner fender well, shock and control arm so I can determine what spacer I need. Sorry for the confusion and difficult question... I guess I will have too wait until the wheels arrive before buy the spacers. Thanks though.

Should have just asked me then. :p

From what I gather you're asking about the rear. +26 final offset will safely clear a 17x9.5 back there. As for once you mount the super beefy tires though, you may need some small spacing. I'd shoot for +20 off the bat.

[rneedham1979]

I only asked for 235 since that is the largest tire size someone has installed on the 4x100 thus far. I am more interested in the measured distance between the wheel and inner fender well or suspension components. If someone can measure from the wheel to suspension/inner fender well I would greatly appreciate it.

Also, I am looking for pictures and links to stretched/worked fenders. I am not going for the euro look just want a subtle stretch to ensure the tire do not rub the fender.

Thanks guys!

[rneedham1979]

So with the 17x8 ET25 widened 1.5"s I should have a final offset of ET26. Do you think i could get away with not using a rear spacer for the 255? What is the smallest spacer I could get away with? An 8mm, 10mm, 15mm?

Thanks again!

Should have just asked me then. :p

From what I gather you're asking about the rear. +26 final offset will safely clear a 17x9.5 back there. As for once you mount the super beefy tires though, you may need some small spacing. I'd shoot for +20 off the bat.

[Massive Lee]

Hi buddy

If you start with a 17" x 8" wheel with et25 and add 1.5" (38mm) section in the barrel, then the final offset becomes et25 + 38mm/2 = et44

[rneedham1979]

Ah OK. With the 17x9.5" how much clearance is left? Anyone have an idea?

Hi buddy

If you start with a 17" x 8" wheel wite et25 and add 1.5" (38mm) section in the barrel, then the final offset becomes et25 + 38mm/2 = et44